Thread: WILD...uhh...problem.

Last night was the first time I tried to LD, It was around 1am and I was pretty tired. From reading guides from different sites, I knew the basic outline of what I needed to do. I got really close to the transitional stage and then I started feeling sick from eating some bad cheese earlier. I immediately opened my eyes and ruined it all. My next 2 attempts, I couldn't get anywhere near as close as the first and eventually just slept normally.

My problem now, is that i've read that I need to sleep before I try to WILD, but I sleep really deeply and for an alarm to wake me up, it would most certainly wake up everyone else in the house. Can anyone think of an alternate way to wake up?

EDIT: Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that during the week, 1am isn't possible, which is why I need to have slept first to be tired enough.

I use autosuggestion, basically tell my self to wake up whenever, and then I do it!

My advice is to not worry about it. WILDs are commonly random for me, its like a weird conscious state I can tell I'm in when I lay down before having one. I don't have them often , but they are well worth the wait. Also you don't need to sleep first, but it is way more common to be able to WILD after sleeping. If you're able to sleep lateish on a weekend or something you could do it after sleep. I usually wait 30 mins to an hour or two and close my eyes and just clearing my head and trying to visualize myself getting up in my room or another location.

I've decided to try and WILD without sleeping first, now I just need a good anchor. That first time I used counting but I kept losing count, it does work, just not for me. I'm thinking of clipping a peg to my hand, any thoughts on this?

Is there any reason you're not doing the sleeping first method first? It's a lot easier, and would make doing it before you sleep a lot easier since you'll know what if feels like and how it looks.

What works for me is to clear your mind of and thoughts, and try to just visualize wherever you are laying down, and trying to move and get up.

This can be startling at first because sometimes you aren't sure if you're really doing it or not. I've woken myself up because of this multiple times thinking I knocked a bunch of stuff over, haha.

It's really hard to explain, but I also get a weird feeling in my head when I've entered the dream. Its sort of feels like my head has extra weight to it and theres a bright dot, or a bright image, and I try to go towards it with my mind.

It takes time to WILD , I believe its the least common form of lucid dream. I think you will have one eventually though.

I tried to sleep first last night, but it took ages to get to sleep and when my alarm went off (Aparently my alarm isn't possible to hear in other rooms), I just turned it off and instantly went back to sleep. I simply don't have the willpower to get up so early.

Also, I'm trying to WILD before I try anything else, because it just seems like if I only become lucid half way through the dream, doesn't that mean I would only get half of the time being lucid?

Originally Posted by Minus

I've decided to try and WILD without sleeping first, now I just need a good anchor. That first time I used counting but I kept losing count, it does work, just not for me. I'm thinking of clipping a peg to my hand, any thoughts on this?

Now I'm no expert on lucid dreaming but I have studied sleep cycles in the past. You see the problem with trying to WILD before sleep lies in the way sleep cycles work. When you first fall off you will enter NREM sleep rather than REM sleep (the sleep state in which dreams occur). Sleep works in cycles. The first REM cycle may kick in 1.5-2hours into your sleep if you are lucky, but this cycle is very short. As the night goes on, the REM cycles become much longer. So waking up later in the night allows you to WILD straight into a REM cycle.

Try this link http://www.dream-recorder.com/helpHT...eepPhases.html

I myself have just started trying to WILD. I tried to practice it before bed and as for yourself, I found it easier to concentrate then than at 5am. But you gotta try doing it at 5am if you want to increase your chances of LD'ing. Literally make yourself get out of bed long enough so that you don't drift straight back off but not so long that it will take you ages to get back to sleep. After 3 attempts at WILD I haven't LD'd yet but I have gotten closer and closer each time. Last night I found a window of opportunity after two waves of "vibrations" (which feel more like head-rushes to me) where it felt like I was lying in a different room for about 10 seconds, but I didn't know what to do with this and so it closed.

This is of course all just my noobish opinion but I just thought it might save you the anguish of further failures! I know something of the frustration you may be feeling!

Yeah, last night was my 2nd failed attempt. It was without sleep first as I said, I got the paralysis and the falling sensation but no real progress from there. It got to about an hour and a half later (it only felt like 20 minutes) and I gave it up. I'm thinking the peg was an alright idea, the paralysis negated it a little, but it worked ok. Although, after I took it off, it left a pretty sore mark.

Think i'm gonna give the alarm a 2nd go.

EDIT: Just thought I'd mention how much I enjoy that falling sensation, it felt like I must have fell over a kilometre.

Drink a lot of water before u go to bed.

Just thought I'd update that I had my first LD . I used Autosuggestion and then in my dream I randomly yelled out that I was dreaming, so I became lucid but only for like a minute, because I think that I actually forgot what happened

Still, that made me a little more motivated.