Thread: Did I just have my first LD? plz answer

Originally Posted by ClouD

Lucidity is a personal experience, why do you need to define it?

It is a strange phenomenon for that first time.

If you see a rose dripping dew under a sunrise, and it is the first time you have ever seen anything, what can be said?
Another thing, is that there is no division between what is and what isn't, there is no question nor inhibition.

It is your division that is your non-lucidity, and your interjection that is against. Defining should be done with great caution, it can create much questioning and doubt, and does not take for granted that which is, which is (if you have have experience with dreams you will know) the catalyst (in a backwards way) for everything, including lucidity.

If you let lucidity, it is there. If you keep asking those who can never answer you truthfully, then you are just creating another problem. Another person's truth can never be your own, truth is subjective - for you to know what lucidity is, you must be lucid. When you are lucid, you will understand, but otherwise the asking of the question is going to be a barrier.

Because lucid dreaming is by definition just being consciously aware that you are dreaming while you are dreaming You can't be lucid dreaming unless that criterion is fulfilled Lucidity during waking life though, I won't dare define

Originally Posted by Shift

Because lucid dreaming is by definition just being consciously aware that you are dreaming while you are dreaming You can't be lucid dreaming unless that criterion is fulfilled Lucidity during waking life though, I won't dare define

Ah yes, I don't really like the lucid dreaming definition.

When I say lucidity I mean 'awareness of awareness', and not interpretation of reality, even though heightened awareness is usually needed to reach definitions in a dream.

I just find that definitions are damaging to furthering lucidity deeper when lucid, and that being aware of dreaming is not actually a requisite to greatly heightened awareness (and I won't dare contradict myself once more by saying 'in a dream' again ).

Also, awareness of dreaming is a bit strange, since you can't usually feel both the 'waking body' and the 'sleeping body' (I mean those definitions loosely), but when you do feel both, then neither one feels more real, at least in my interpretation.

Originally Posted by ClouD

Ah yes, I don't really like the lucid dreaming definition.

When I say lucidity I mean 'awareness of awareness', and not interpretation of reality, even though heightened awareness is usually needed to reach definitions in a dream.

I just find that definitions are damaging to furthering lucidity deeper when lucid, and that being aware of dreaming is not actually a requisite to greatly heightened awareness (and I won't dare contradict myself once more by saying 'in a dream' again ).

Also, awareness of dreaming is a bit strange, since you can't usually feel both the 'waking body' and the 'sleeping body' (I mean those definitions loosely), but when you do feel both, then neither one feels more real, at least in my interpretation.

Yes, I suppose. Well, you can be aware of a ton of things. I often have dreams in which I am aware. It's much less often that the thing I am aware of is that I am actually in a dream, which is what makes it a lucid dream.