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      im new to this.

      Hi, as my title said, im new to this, in fact i only found out about this whole thing a few hours ago and until now i would have said this was all crazy talk but now, i believe it could truly happen. although im still skeptical.

      I do have a few questions however.

      i feel like i only have 1 dream or so a week, although this is probably my memory, did anyone else feel like this before they started?

      which method would you say was the easiest to begin with, which has quickest results.

      how long did you take to get your first lucid dream?


      lastly, i remember once that i realised i was in a dream like 3-4 seconds before i woke up, all i did was look around and say 'hmm interesting' this as happened a couple of times just before waking up. would this clarify, or would you say i was just half awake and imagining this?

      it's alot to take in... any general advice?

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      Hey Jack, welcome to DV
      I understand your skepticism. My first lucid just happened before I knew it was possible, but if I simply heard of it I probably would have called you insane. Sounds like yours was kind of the same way, but didn't last too long. With more experience and practice you should be able to stay in them for longer periods of time and also be able to control some aspects of the dream. Sounds nuts, I know, but yea it sounds like you had a lucid dream already. And that was at one dream per week and only for a few seconds Just imagine putting in a little bit of effort!

      It does sound like, with only remembering one dream a week, you should start on building up your recall. Aim for somewhere around 1-3 dreams per night. Just jot them down when you wake up, whatever you can remember. Eventually you can start to look at them and find patterns in your dreams, for example maybe you always have dreams that you are at work or school. Then, you just have to practice questioning yourself on whether or not you are dreaming every time you're in those locations. After a while, this awareness and natural skepticism () will end up in your dreams, causing you to question what's really going on and to realize that you're dreaming.

      Here are some links, look them over and if you've got any questions feel free to ask. With a little bit of effort you will see that it's not crazy, and that your dream is normal and can be very fun
      DILD Tutorial

      You may want to check out the book Exploring the World of Lucid Dream by Dr. Stephen LaBerge. He's basically famous for being the first person to study lucid dreaming in a scientific manner. So if you're scientifically minded you should definitely check out his research, too.

      Over time you'll be able to stay in your dreams longer and to interact with people and things in the dream. It really depends on a ton of factors when it comes to the length of time before you get your next lucid. Some people have them the next night, some people take a bit longer. Just keep trying and you'll get results though, and believe me when you are able to do whatever you want in a dream or just sit back and WOW at them, it'll be worth it.
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      It is normal to forget most of your dreams. Everybody dreams every night, but unless you make en effort to try and remember them, they slip away a few seconds after you wake up. Once you start giving your dreams your attention, you will start to remember them.

      To begin with, it is best to increase your dream recall by keeping a dream journal. You can also start training yourself to become more aware by using Reality Checks. If you have time during the night, try doing a Wake Back To Bed whenever you can.
      Check out the quick start guide for better advice:
      http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ead.php?t=1518

      If you haven't already, check out the tutorial section:
      http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...splay.php?f=25

      I had lucid dreams before I knew what they were, so I can't say how long it takes to learn. From what I've seen, everyone is different. Some people get lucid right away just by being aware it is possible. Other people take a while to develop the required habits.

      Your dream sounds lucid to me Maybe you are having more lucid dreams, and just not remembering them?

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      i've been reading quite a lot and what i've got so far is:

      jot down you're dreams whenever you wake up and remember them, write how you feel and what happened.

      ask yourself if you're dreaming when you're awake and this trait will follow into your dreams, that way if you are dreaming you should quickly realise it.

      think about having them, tell yourself you will have one before going to bed and mean it, make your mind know its important for you.

      and i think be imaginative, try and think about what you want to dream about before falling asleep.

      edit: Just to say, im only 15 years old, whether im not mature enough or whatever to have one, does age matter? i would imagine not but you know there might be alot of things on my mind, or whether being a teenager and being stress-free from money worries and etc will help.

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      Quote Originally Posted by JackM View Post
      i've been reading quite a lot and what i've got so far is:

      jot down you're dreams whenever you wake up and remember them, write how you feel and what happened.

      ask yourself if you're dreaming when you're awake and this trait will follow into your dreams, that way if you are dreaming you should quickly realise it.

      think about having them, tell yourself you will have one before going to bed and mean it, make your mind know its important for you.

      and i think be imaginative, try and think about what you want to dream about before falling asleep.
      Yup, that's about the basics of a DILD. Whenever you do reality checks in RL, make sure to completely stop everything you are doing and thoroughly make sure you're not dreaming. Think about all the dreams you've had up until now that were not lucid... they're trickier to catch than they seem! So you've gotta be pretty thorough about the state testing to catch them.

      Also, coming up with dream goals is the #1 thing I think everyone should do. I still have a list of dream goals that I'm always attempting. You probably want to keep them kind of basic at first. I've found that just doing reality checks in dreams can be a good enough dream goal. They're very simple, you don't have to try to find other people or objects or go anywhere, but when you end up counting 10 fingers on one hand or pushing your arm through something, it's pretty damn cool. You'll also be familiar with the concept and motions since you'll be trying them while awake. Definitely make a list of things like "Fly, throw fireballs, summon supermodel, talk to dog, kick someone's ass, make it rain or change the weather", etc. These will keep you motivated and the more you think about them, the easier it will be to remember to do them in your dreams.

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      i remember one really odd experience, it was a totally random dream, basically i was like a secret agent or something in my school, and when i was making my way out of a building this alarm went off, and it was a wierd alarm and after hearing it i instantly knew it was a dream, though woke up a few seconds later.

      something that often happens is when im in a dream, when i try to run away from someone/something i either slip and fall and can barely move, like ive greased my feet and im running on ice, or i can run really fast and jump quite far but when i have to turn i seem to turn too far and spin, its wierd


      the idea of having your own universe to control with no consequences is utterly fascinating though, its like playing god... i mean doing whatever you want, its like a virtual reality... taking daydreaming to a whole new standard

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      Quote Originally Posted by JackM View Post
      i remember one really odd experience, it was a totally random dream, basically i was like a secret agent or something in my school, and when i was making my way out of a building this alarm went off, and it was a wierd alarm and after hearing it i instantly knew it was a dream, though woke up a few seconds later.

      something that often happens is when im in a dream, when i try to run away from someone/something i either slip and fall and can barely move, like ive greased my feet and im running on ice, or i can run really fast and jump quite far but when i have to turn i seem to turn too far and spin, its wierd


      the idea of having your own universe to control with no consequences is utterly fascinating though, its like playing god... i mean doing whatever you want, its like a virtual reality... taking daydreaming to a whole new standard
      Yea, dreams are weird like that. What you expect to happen will usually happen, so in the case of nightmares you worry about the call not going through or not being able to press the buttons or tripping, and boom! you find yourself flat on the ground and unable to get up. The bright side is that with lucid dreaming, you expect something awesome to happen and it does

      Oh man it definitely is awesome, I've been hooked since my first one I absolutely love making it rain and stuff, I mean people always make jokes about the weatherman not being god and all that stuff, and I just smile to myself

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      Quote Originally Posted by JackM View Post
      i've been reading quite a lot and what i've got so far is:

      jot down you're dreams whenever you wake up and remember them, write how you feel and what happened.

      ask yourself if you're dreaming when you're awake and this trait will follow into your dreams, that way if you are dreaming you should quickly realise it.

      think about having them, tell yourself you will have one before going to bed and mean it, make your mind know its important for you.

      and i think be imaginative, try and think about what you want to dream about before falling asleep.
      That's pretty much all there is to it. That is only one method though (it's the one I used when I first started though and it worked pretty well). Not to make it sound easy though, it does take a bit of practice and time. You'll have to be patient and know that it could be a few weeks before you finally manage an LD (let alone a controlled one!).

      Quote Originally Posted by JackM View Post
      edit: Just to say, im only 15 years old, whether im not mature enough or whatever to have one, does age matter? i would imagine not but you know there might be alot of things on my mind, or whether being a teenager and being stress-free from money worries and etc will help.
      I don't think age will make much of a difference, at the very least you'll have more time to focus on lucid dreaming and getting yourself into the right habits. I think I was about 17 when I started (possibly younger, i'm not sure...).

      I think there are other 15 year olds here on the forum too, so you're definitely not alone!

      Good luck!
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      Yea, age should really not matter as long as you are over 2 and under 99 (and even then who am I to say it does?). A lot of people actually lucid dream when they are younger but lose the skill as they age, I guess because they don't consciously practice it? I was never so lucky. But anyway I had my first one at about 16 or so, now I'm 20 and I've had 80+. So yea, you're in a very good ripe age for LDing

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      Hello JackM. Some basic advice to help you would be the following:

      1) Write down your dreams. It helps you remember them more and increases your chances of having more lucid dreams.
      2) Do reality checks during the day. It helps you ask yourself if you are dreaming, which is usually more effective than becoming lucid in a dream at random.

      Most people don't remember their dreams, or at least more than one per night. If you can, your odds of having lucid dreams are fairly good! Good luck to you, and have many lucids!

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