Hello dreamers....can you use colors?

[Anahata]

Salutations all..... as everyone says it is nice to find a forum filled with such activity about things we all love....I can already tell there is much to learn from you all. I have been interested in, and attempting to work with, lucid dreaming for some time now..... though I have never truly dedicated myself to practicing, and I know this is why I have had limited lucid experiences.... only one actually. I have learned most of what I know from what I see being referred to around here as a natural dreamer. He learned to control his dreams as a child to fend off nightmares...and has retained lucidity in his adult life. When talking with him we have never used any of the, jargon, for lack of a better word, that I see here... so I have been trying to match my definitions of things with the way they are termed here but have a question.... In WILD .... I think this was in the tutorial, but maybe somewhere else on the site... I read that you will start to see patterns much like if you pressed your fingertip on you eyelid.... and that you are to stay aware of the patterns but not focus on only them.... so as to help maintain that conscious state into the dream. My friend once described to me how he went into a lucid dream, and he talked about those same patterns and colors that you see when you close your eyes... but he would control them, make them into different shapes, or objects... and it was the concentration on those patterns that enabled him to be lucid. Do you think what he is doing is not WILD, but just one of the many individual ways to dream lucidly.... ? And second, are there ways to teach children to lucid dream?

[Placebo]

Hey Calla, welcome to DreamViews Many of the natural LDers around here got their abilities from nightmares. I was one of them, but I don't consider myself a 'natural', as I didnt have many LDs as a child. About the patterns, I honestly dont know About the teaching of LD's to children, I would imagine the techniques in the tutorials would work. Perhaps with some simplification. PS : Please could you use the <enter> key? Without it, your post is much harder to read

[regetsref]

Thats my technique kinda for WILDs, keep watching the images that appear in my mind, though technically I think they appear in your eyes too. There's all kinds of different approaches too. I think Id teach my kids to lucid dream, maybe if you teach a kid early he could use his dreamtime to practice piano or something and then he'd be twice as good after playing in his dreams and real life. And welcome to the forum

[Anahata]

Thanks for the replys you two..... fersteger, I have only had one lucid dream, but when I did this was the technique I used as well. Don't think I went through everything described in the WILD stuff..... but hey whatever works I guess. That's a good idea about teaching children to lucid dream so that they can use their dream time to develop some things and their waking life to work on the others..... but do you think abilities we learn or practice in dream move over to our awake state? Placebo......sorry bout the lack of using the enter key... I tend to ramble a lot in real life, and I have decided the ellipses and lack of defining is the best way to show that.... but I will keep in mind that it is hard to read that way... thanks again for the replies......

[Human]

Originally posted by Calla do you think abilities we learn or practice in dream move over to our awake state? I think it's possible in some way. By the way, welcome to the forum!

[regetsref]

I don't know about how much stuff you do in a dream affects your real life because I have no experience doing it but I would think it would. Hopefully someone will post who has some experience with this. But anyways, good luck with everything Calla, Ive been at it 3 months and still have yet to have a real lucid dream. btw use the enter key more please yeah ok.

[Jammy]

I truly believe that what you learn or practice in a lucid dream affects your waking life and visa versa. Its just like with visualization. If you see ann apple you fire of the same neuro pattern as if you visualize an apple. And that where all the kund fu training come in. The shaolins sit there and visualize theyr martial arts perfect, and then it gets perfect. With lucid dreaming this visualisation works even stronger. Your acctually there practicing perfect. Just to use an example. For the color pattern, its named HI, and after awile watching them passivly they form into pictures and livly scenarios. I really like this techinque. And have had some sucsess with it. What you see is acctually the sight nerves firing of light from the activity of the brain, i mean ive heard someplace.

[regetsref]

I really enjoy watching HI, Ive always had a very good imagination and just finding out about this phenomenom recently really opens my eyes to what the mind can do. Its good stuff. Its so fascinating to me, but yeah the HI defenitely seems like its images that youve seen that come back or something. Like when you leave a video game on too long and it burns the image in the screen, I'm gonna look for some scientific stuff on what this really is cuz I really don't understand it too well yet.

[Anahata]

"Its just like with visualization. If you see ann apple you fire of the same neuro pattern as if you visualize an apple" You know I have read about this and just didn't really make the connection with dreaming and waking life..... but it makes a lot of sense now that I think of it like this.... "For the color pattern, its named HI, and after awile watching them passivly they form into pictures and livly scenarios." Well... while the name was unknown to me, I think this is going to be my key to lucidity, as it seems to come intrinsically... wow I didn't even mean to do all that rhyming But anyway..... I can remember a very vivid experience with this, as the colors would shift the scene would change, weird random things like parked cars in the rain when it was red, or flowing streams of beads with the green. I guess the control aspect comes into play more in that you have to maintain awareness of the colors and patterns.... control your attention, rather than control the colors themselves. Oooohh I can't wait to go to sleep..... thanks for the info! and fersteger, let me know whatcha find..... please

[regetsref]

Ugh, can't find anything about HI other than new age nonsense...

[Placebo]

Regarding do you think abilities we learn or practice in dream move over to our awake state?[/b] I've heard the story many times of people practicing, in imagination only - and improving their skills. Theres no reason it wont work, IMO Your dream is a pretty good replica of the way you work physically

[Anahata]

I've been looking in some books I have for info on the topic too..... no luck though..... while finding out the scientific reasons behind the colors and such would be nice.....mostly I just wanna learn the best way to use them to be lucid..... Once lucid.... thinking about the fact that practicing things in my dreams will increase my abilities with those things in waking life is exciting..... course once I am lucid regularly I am probably going to want to do more out of this world crazy things...... maybe once that newness wears off I will spend my dreams fine tuning my skills in some areas... like guitar...