Thread: Wild and WBTB

I'm sick of this I've been doing a WBTB WILD everynight for a week with still no results not even SP or HH. I get a weird numbness that comes and goes but never actual SP. I'm pressing for wilds because my recall is literally zero and WILD seems to be my only chance at lucidity.

So i would sleep at 11-11:30pm wake up a 4:30-5am get up RC then use the restroom. Go directly back to bed for a wild. This has not worked at all After an hour give or take I just give up turn on my side and fall asleep with no dream recall in the morning.

So I have some questions.

1. Can someone detail the WILD experience? I know we have a bunch of tutorials on it here, but I hear contradictions when others speak of what actually works. When i first began wild I would lay away for hours with no result, then a DV member mentioned on a thread that you must actually fall asleep to wild. It made sense but then I was confused as to how to be aware but fall asleep at the same time, it makes no sense.

2. The next thing is that I cant seem to fall asleep on my back, does this mean I cant wild there either?

3. I have a hard time going to bed fast, I have to have literally zero thought process to go to bed. Thinking period keeps me awake, however if I focus on not thinking eventually I forget I'm focusing on nothingness and drift into sleep without realization. This is why the wild is so confusing, how can I stay awake, but fall sleep!? If i focus on breathing or counting it keeps me awake if I focus on nothing I'll just fall asleep how does this work!? wOULD etwold help me?

4. How can you keep a DJ if your recall is zero every night? What do you write? How can I improve If I have nothing to build on? This also makes no sense to me. (Sure I might remember a dream once in like 3-6 month span)

Really this whole experience is aggravating and I'm getting kinda mad, If I can't get this to work at least within the next two months; at least get simi lucid even for 2 seconds I quit LD'ing.