Thread: Using WILD

I've been reading up on this technique and have become very interested and am considering using it. But before doing so I'd like to ask a few questions to some of the experienced WILD users.

First of all let my say that I'm just starting out with lucid training, with reality checks and keeping a diary, and havn't actually had an LD exerience yet. Anyway to my questions:

1)Would you suggest it would be OK to use WILD before actually experiencing a lucid dream.
2)Is it possible to snap out of WILD on command (ie. waking up through getting excited, maybe other command??)
3)Can WILD hurt you in any way
4)Is WILD generally easier, and a more "promising" way of gettin a lucid dream, rather than having to wait, and hopefully having some of the reality check techniques kick in

I was just wondering on this cause I am interesting in trying it through this way, rather than waiting for luck on having an LD normally. I know all the directions you must follow to experience a WILD. Also for those who post here, can you please explain that (if) you have had a WILD experience before, please explain exactly what happend in detail (what you felt, what you saw, what you heard, actual point when you enter the dream).

Thank you all

Originally posted by The G-Man

1)Would you suggest it would be OK to use WILD before actually experiencing a lucid dream.
2)Is it possible to snap out of WILD on command (ie. waking up through getting excited, maybe other command??)
3)Can WILD hurt you in any way
4)Is WILD generally easier, and a more \"promising\" way of gettin a lucid dream, rather than having to wait, and hopefully having some of the reality check techniques kick in

Thank you all

Welcome to Dreamviews G-man!

1) Yes, use all techniquest at your disposal!
2) Yes, during the induction, WILD is a fragile thing, very easy to snap out of. Once in the dream, you can snap out of it just like any other lucid dream.
3) No, WILD cannot in any way hurt you. It is as natural as falling asleep. Oh wait a minute, it IS falling asleep
4) WILD is usually a difficult skill for people to learn, but WTF, you might be a natural! Keep practicing all techniques while you learn to WILD

WILD experiences for each person differ, but here is a typical wild for me:

I will relax and begin saying "I am dreaming"
As I relax, I will notice HI and little dreamlets beginning to form. This part is critical, if you relax your guard too much, you will fall asleep, if you focus too much on them, you will fully wake up.
I will usually feel a jolt, exactly like the ones you feel sometimes when you are falling asleep. I know sleep paralysis is close at this point.
I will continue to be passive and relax and the vibrations will then start. They last for 5-15 seconds.
As the vibrations begin to fade, one of two things will happen.
1) I will feel a calm sinking sensation, like I am settling to the bottom of a swimming pool
or
2) I will get intense HI and feel like I'm being pulled in with great acceleration.

After this, I will be in the dream. Sometimes though, it is blackness and I will have to open my "eyes" first.

Hope this helps in some way!

You basicly too the words right out of my mouth Seeker. One thing that I want to add is that if you always lose concentration and just fall asleep, try putting on some soft music (Bjork?) in the background, this can give you somthing to focus on.

Hey everyone, glad to be a part of the community now.

I've also just recently started trying WILD (last night was the first attempt) and it looks to be pretty promising. I progressed to the part where you feel like you are sinking (very strange experience itself) but I lost concentration and woke myself. It's a little difficult at first but I guess it should get easier the more practice we get.

Alright, thank for you responses everyone, they have given me confidence now in attempting WILD. I believe I will try it this weekend (after my school exams, dont wanna lost it over lack of sleep hehe).

I apologize for asking a new question, I don't mean to act like such a newb, but whatever. Anyway heres my question:

When you eventually succeed in WILD, and enter a lucid dream, how long does it last for? Like technically saying, does it last all night (considering you normally do it when going to bed) or do you wake up later after a certain time from of lets say 30 min? or another way is, how long does it "seem" like it last, compared to how long in reality it lasts.

Hopefully you'll get the idea of what im asking, and if please you can post a logical answer, as well as your experiences in the time from after WILD.

Thank you all, this is a great, friendly forum to post in, and Ill be here for a long time

Hello what is WILD thankyou please.

Originally posted by The G-Man
When you eventually succeed in WILD, and enter a lucid dream, how long does it last for? Like technically saying, does it last all night (considering you normally do it when going to bed) or do you wake up later after a certain time from of lets say 30 min? or another way is, how long does it \"seem\" like it last, compared to how long in reality it lasts.

A couple of things here. It is VERY difficult is not almost impossible to WILD when you first go to bed. During your first sleep cycle, your brain wants to wind way down into delta sleep. The best time to do WILD is after at least 5-6 hours of sleep.

A WILD is just like any other lucid dream. It may last for 45 minutes if you are lucky, or, if you become too excited or something disturbs you, it can end within seconds.

My last WILD went on for quite a while, maybe 20 minutes, but was cut short when my wife rolled over in bed.

Bradly, WILD=Wake Induced Lucid Dream, it is where you transition from being awake to a dream without loss of conciousness. It is mentioned in the tutorial section.

The best time to do WILD is after at least 5-6 hours of sleep. [/b]

Ahh, I've been ignoring that piece of information (I'm too damn impatient). I guess this explains the difficulty I've been having with it.

Hey, I downloaded this Brain Wave Generator software I found a link to on the site here - has anyone tried it? I read how it works and it does make sense. If it does bring your brainwaves down, it should (theoreticaly) eliminate this "5-6 hour of sleep" rule - right?

PS-- Just last night I got up around 5am, went to the bathroom, got back in bed and tried WILD. Got some tingling sensations every now and then, but after an hour I gave up. Should I have kept at it? I think I was just too anxious the whole time. I remember having three small dreams from the time I gave up untill I woke up - a matter of 45 minutes!

Hey, I'm new to DV's too. I read all of the guide from where i got this fourm site from and became very intrested with it all. After signing myself up i too read the tutorials from this site and WILD sounds amazing.

I have been doing reality checks and starting to keep a diary of my dreams for the few days i have been learning. So far i havn't really had any luck with lucid dreaming itself. However, last night i tried a WILD for the first time and i believe i almost got into the state of mind where i was crossing over from being awake to falling asleep. I felt very relaxed, saw vivid colours and felt a small vibration. I was then disturbed by something woke up. As i closed my eyes again it was really wierd, it was if i saw a big black emptiness with what looked like white smoke moving very fast around. I soon lost concentration and i became fully awake. Really dont know what it was , or if its ment to happen.
Nice to meet you all.

Originally posted by Tornado Joe
Hey, I downloaded this Brain Wave Generator software I found a link to on the site here - has anyone tried it? I read how it works and it does make sense. If it does bring your brainwaves down, it should (theoreticaly) eliminate this \"5-6 hour of sleep\" rule - right?

It's not a matter of modifying your brainwaves. As the night progresses, you brain spends more and more time in REM. Later in the night, after 5-6 hours, you are in an almost continuous REM state. While your brain is in this mode, it is MUCH easier to practice all induction techniques including MILD, WILD, WBTB.

BWGEN is a good program for implanting suggestions into your brain to better recognize when it is dreaming. Some people sleep with the thing going, but I cannot!

On the topic of WILD, I tried it a few nights ago, and fell asleep even before I got to the paralysis stage. Occasionally, I managed to get to that stage before I even saw DV because I was just relaxing, and then my body gradually became inactive, and then I moved a limb and ruined it.

Hey thats really wierd and cool, thanks for telling me bout it.

hi
i'm new here!
i think i've been having WILD'S for a long time, at least as long as i can remember. I seem to wake mid dream, get out of bed, and do things. Then i wake up properly, and go back to bed, but i still remember it the next morning.
the most recent one was the other night, i was convinced a friend of mine was standing outside a glass door, this glass door was right in front of me, and very real. I got up out of bed (knowing i'd got out of bed) and ran to the door to let him in. As i reached the door it began to dissolve, and i woke up fully.
i then went back to bed, and back to sleep.
weird huh?
I've also had two or three lucid dreams, that i had control over, and i've kept a dream journal for the last six months.
prior to this i dreamed, but over the last six months they seem to have got steadily more bizarre, and some nights i remember three or four separate dreams.
However, i find obtaining lucidity difficult, in spite of having excellent recall, and knowing i can lucid dream.
does anyone have any more advice to give me?
thanks!

Welcome to DV, irishcream. If you would like to, you can feel free to make another post introducing yourself and just giving some general information. Sometimes it's hard to keep track of new-comers when they latch onto the end of someone else's post. Just a thought

Anyway, it sounds like you've been having FAs (False Awakenings), which are rather common with some people, through not with others like myself. You can sometimes use FAs as dream signs to help you become lucid.. A WILD (Wake Induced Lucid Dream) is when you wake up and then go back to sleep with still retaining awareness so that you slip instantly into a dream. It's often accompanied by vibrations (a result of the onset of sleep paralysis) and HI (Hyphogogic Imagery) and you can read more about it in the tutorials.

It's good that you've been keeping a journal as it helps with recall abilities and if you're trying to find a dream sign. As for general advice on getting lucid, first check out the Tutorials and pick something to start with, then stick with it for at least a week and if it's not helping try something else. Don't worry if they don't start coming immediately. It took 3 weeks for my first, but it was awesome! Anyway, I'm sure one of the other DGs (Dream Guides) has sent you a message and told you at least some of this already. See you around!

-Amé