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Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
I have to ask, are you two both American? How did we Americans become so self involved? Here in a thread about helping other people, you have degenerated to bickering and name calling because someone disagrees with you. J of Suburbs, we get it; you're apathetic. You've made it painfully obvious. Do you have such a strong desire to be the center of attention that you care that we all know just how apathetic you are? Do you not see the irony in belaboring the point that you don't care?

Xyn, although your intentions may be righteous, you aren't earning any Karma points by trying to belittle someone for not caring as much as you. You also seem like you are putting on a show of sympathy for the less fortunate in order to gain attention. If your intentions in this thread were truly selfless, you would accept that there are people who hold different opinions, and simply ignore anyone who tries to goad you into an argument. Not wanting to donate money to Haiti does not make someone ignorant, especially when the methods for donating that you are suggesting are a little suspect; I know I wouldn't 'text' my dollars to some vague organization that popped up to take your money and bring it to Haiti. How much of that money is actually going to help people and how much is just perpetuating the organization?

I know I sound like I'm putting myself in the position of judge, I'm not trying to. I'm merely presenting myself as a mirror so that you two might see how others perceive you and possibly see the ridiculousness in your argument.
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Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Jones View Post
all communication is translation from the abstract to the concrete. counterexamples welcome.
ex.
Jack says: love (the thought)
Jack says: "love" (the representative sound)

comprehension thereof entails translation from the concrete back to the abstract.
ex.
Jill hears: "love" (the sound)
Jill thinks: love (the thought)

abstraction is a subjective cognitive process. it didn't exist before capable brains evolved. the "failure" in question is up to the person doing the abstracting. how expressive or perceptive they are- how adept they are at using language as a communicative device.

maybe i'm too pragmatic. you might find this interesting: Linguistic relativity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia