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      Is it alright to see other women while you are in a relationship with someone else? I don't think so. If it is soooooooo wrong, why do most women forgive there partners when they were cheated on. A girl should know: when a man cheats on you, he does not love you. Only reason why "we" cheat is because we care too much about you to hurt you and that is why "we" dont tell you. Would you rather have us tell you that "we" don't love you or rater hear it from someone else? You have to accept that your man has fallen out of love with you and in love with someone else.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Scar View Post
      I girl should know: when a man cheats on you, he does not love you.
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      people might disagree with me but I dont think that this is always the case. it is possible to be in love with more then one woman at a time, or atleast it is for me.
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      Well of corse it is posible to be in love with more than one woman. I have been? what I am saying is that when you cheat on your partner then it must mean something. how do you explain that? why do men and women cheat? Must be because they are not IN LOVE any more! If you love someone, you care about them. If they care, why do they(women/men) cheat? what will they gain?
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      Just an argument for the other side: You can love someone on an emotional level and have a physical relationship with someone else. There are different types of love.

      I actually hate cheating, though. I'd never do it, myself. If I've fallen out of love with someone and feel the need to start a new relationship or just have a good time with someone, I make sure to break it off with the other person first.

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      I agree. Rater break up the relationship before you star cheating. Everyoune knows what is the right thing to do , but so little do the right thing
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      There are a few different mindsets that cause people to cheat. It doesn't always come down to whether or not they love the other person.

      Unfortunately, for the times that they do love the other person, it usually comes down to not being man (or woman) enough to actually suck it up and admit to their significant other that they either love someone else, or want to screw someone else - whichever the case.

      But, to answer Scar's question: I think women (and some men) take their partners back, after being cheated on, because of hope. They hope that it was just a fluke. They hope it was some problem that, once addressed, will be over and done with. Even when it's happened a number of times, many people who are "in love" will throw caution to the wind and just hope against all else that "this was and will be the last time." Unfortunately, this is hardly a realistic expectation, to me.

      I think cheating, for both men and women, is pathetic. If you can justify cheating on the person that loves you and keeping it from them, you can more or less justify anything. It's just about the ultimate betrayal. If the cheater can say they honestly love the person they are cheating on, it's even worse. Anything less than being held in an unwanted relationship by gunpoint is no reason to string someone along like they are "the one," while purposefully keeping the fact that you're seeing someone else from them.
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      yeah, I agree. Everyone thinks that maybe he/she won't cheat again. Maybe he/she will love me or apretiate me more. I also think that they are holding on and they always think that he/she will never do it again. If he/she did it once, what are the chances that he/she will cheat again. It is also a huge embaresment when you are cheated on. Maybe they want to spare themselves the embaresment and all that gosip. Maybe they are too weak orscared to confront the problem.

      When a man cheats on a women, she think that she is worthless, useless, weak, not good enough........
      they go back so that they can prove themselves worthy, useful, good enought and so on.

      Men are more likely to cheat on a women

      Another reason why a person stays in a relationship is because there are cildren involved
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      Why cheat when you can be polyamorous?

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      You are asking two separate questions altogether:

      1.Is it alright to see other women while you are in a relationship with someone else? Yes, as long as you are being completely honest with your partner, and she knows and consents to this.

      2. Is it alright to cheat? No, never. Cheating is lying and nothing will kill a relationship faster than killing the trust between the two parties.


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      Morality is subjective, so only oneself can make a judgement whether one consider it to be right or wrong. Personally I would hire hookers or something along those lines if the one I loved couldn't please me enough physically, without telling, as that would just result in problems.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Meidi View Post
      Why cheat when you can be polyamorous?
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      Problem:

      <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wikipedia &#064; Jan 3 2007)</div>
      [edit] Perceived failure rates
      Polyamorous relationships are often criticised as "not lasting", for example, Stanley Kurtz takes this as axiomatic when he says "Not only would legally recognized polyamory be unstable..."[8]

      The problem of confirmation bias makes it impossible to accurately gauge the stability of polyamorous relationships without carefully-conducted scientific investigation. The complex nature of polyamory presents difficulties in structuring such research. For instance, polyamorists may be reluctant to disclose their relationship status due to potential negative consequences, and researchers may be unfamiliar with the full range of polyamorous behaviours, leading to poorly-framed questions that give misleading results. (Note that the American Psychological Association has identified these same issues as potential causes of error in the context of gay/lesbian/bisexual populations.[9])

      While predating the term polyamory, some research has been done on the stability of some forms of what might be considered polyamorous relationships. Weitzman[10] lists a study by Rubin and Adams in 1986 which found no differences in marital stability based on sexual exclusivity in married relationships.

      Still, without more disciplined academic study in this area, the question is currently open. There is simply not enough consistent and high quality research at present comparing monogamous relationships with polyamorous ones, either in terms of longevity (as a measure for those relationships which do make a "life-long" commitment), in terms of satisfaction with the results, or in terms of meeting the expectations of those participating. Though some research results suggest that provided both partners are emotionally capable of the outlook required by polyamory, those relationships are more capable of duration than classical monogamous partnerships. (References to these specific research results are needed.)
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      I agree with oneironaut here.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Truthbearer View Post
      You are asking two separate questions altogether:

      1.Is it alright to see other women while you are in a relationship with someone else? Yes, as long as you are being completely honest with your partner, and she knows and consents to this.

      2. Is it alright to cheat? No, never. Cheating is lying and nothing will kill a relationship faster than killing the trust between the two parties.
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      I agree with this, though I don&#39;t see how someone who is interested in an intimate relationship with someone would consent to their partner seeing other people. I&#39;d be insulted.

      Cheating is an awful thing to do. I don&#39;t see how someone can crush the heart of their partner just to gratify their own desires or because "things have changed and I didn&#39;t want to tell you."

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      Quote Originally Posted by Amethyst View Post
      I agree with this, though I don&#39;t see how someone who is interested in an intimate relationship with someone would consent to their partner seeing other people. I&#39;d be insulted.[/b]
      Well, that would be what people call an open relationship. Basically it&#39;s the form of relationship where both members are in accordance that they can have an emotionally exclusive relationship without being exclusive sexually. As long as both members of the relationship are in 100% understanding of this, and they don&#39;t cross the line at any point (as to becoming jealous or inquiring to the other person about the other people they are seeing/fucking), then it can actually seems to work just fine.

      I have a friend who is an expert in developing this sort of relationship, and currently has about 2 or 3.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Truthbearer View Post
      You are asking two separate questions altogether:

      1.Is it alright to see other women while you are in a relationship with someone else? Yes, as long as you are being completely honest with your partner, and she knows and consents to this.

      2. Is it alright to cheat? No, never. Cheating is lying and nothing will kill a relationship faster than killing the trust between the two parties.
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      Can I just condense the answer into one simple phrase?

      What the fuck do you think?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Truthbearer View Post
      Well, that would be what people call an open relationship. Basically it&#39;s the form of relationship where both members are in accordance that they can have an emotionally exclusive relationship without being exclusive sexually.
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      It would depend on the level of intimacy. I was just stating that I&#39;d be insulted if a guy asked me if he could see other ladies, regardless "how far it went." Personal opinion.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Amethyst View Post
      It would depend on the level of intimacy. I was just stating that I&#39;d be insulted if a guy asked me if he could see other ladies, regardless "how far it went." Personal opinion.
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      Well, the thing is unless/before you guys have previously stated you wish to be boyfriend/girlfriend or be exclusive, what you have before that is an informal and open relationship. So it&#39;s not as much as if you already have a formed relationship with him and then he asks you (that would be insulting indeed), as much as it would be for him to be clear about his intentions in the first place, and way before you guys have come to any sort of agreement.
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      Okay, my two cents, and sort of in opposition to Truthbearer:

      I don&#39;t believe in "right" and "wrong" as objective concepts. But, as far as cheating goes. In theory, if you decide to have a non-exclusive relationship, and you agree to it with your partner, then it could work. But in practice, the situation is almost always far more troublesome. In such relationships, the "non-exclusivity" is never balanced. Meaning, the desire of one partner to have extra-relationship sex will always be greater than that of the other. As a result of this, one of the two individuals in the relationship will inevitably feel that their partner is getting more out of the relationship than them, and feel that the agreement on non-exclusivity has just been used by their partner to fuck around without having to worry about his or her partner&#39;s feelings.

      I think while potentially sound in theory, non-exclusive relationships are more often than not, a recipe for disaster.

      As far as I&#39;m concerned, I only really want one partner - my ideal would be an exclusive, monogomous relationship. I&#39;m not saying other arrangements wouldn&#39;t or don&#39;t work - I&#39;m just saying, they are by nature far less stable.

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      Quote Originally Posted by NowhereMan View Post
      I don&#39;t believe in "right" and "wrong" as objective concepts.
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      First off, hi.

      And secondly, to those who don&#39;t believe in "right" and "wrong" as objective concepts, I pose a question. Is there any circumstance under which rape is okay? I&#39;m not talking about "Well, we were drinking and she said yes that night but now..." stuff. In general, is rape right?

      (I apologize for the derailing)

      I&#39;m not saying that either one of us is exclusively "right," but I find it hard to believe that there are no "absolute truths."

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      And secondly, to those who don&#39;t believe in "right" and "wrong" as objective concepts, I pose a question. Is there any circumstance under which rape is okay? I&#39;m not talking about "Well, we were drinking and she said yes that night but now..." stuff. In general, is rape right?[/b]
      If the raper does not consider it to be wrong, he does nothing wrong if raping someone. It is only oneself who can judge whether the action was right or wrong.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Amethyst View Post
      &#092;And secondly, to those who don&#39;t believe in "right" and "wrong" as objective concepts, I pose a question. Is there any circumstance under which rape is okay? I&#39;m not talking about "Well, we were drinking and she said yes that night but now..." stuff. In general, is rape right?

      (I apologize for the derailing)

      I&#39;m not saying that either one of us is exclusively "right," but I find it hard to believe that there are no "absolute truths."[/b]
      Well, I know you do Amé. But, like I said, I don&#39;;t believe that anything is morally wrong or right in the absolute sense. I believe that the most that can be said is that a certain action carries with it social harm, personal harm, hurts someone, and is considered morally wrong by the consensus of the vast majority of people. That doesn&#39;t mean it&#39;s morally wrong in the absoluite sense - for I do not believe in absolute morality.

      So, do I believe that rape is morally wrong in the absolute sense? No - because I don;&#39;t believe in absolute morality.

      However, I do believe that rape causes huge social and personal harm, and that it is "wrong" as decided by the subjective consensius of the majority populace. I view it as morally abhorrent according to my own standards, but, I do not seek to equate my standards, or society&#39;s, to an objective moral standard.

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