Anyone Want To Make $1,000,000? Then Prove Me Wrong!

[Conforming Non-Conformist]

Hello all, That title may have been a bit misleading. I will not pay you $1,000,000 but Ed Brown will if you can find the law that says the American people HAVE to pay income taxes...! Apparently the IRS are nothing but glorified hitman and gangbangers who make you pay up for 'your own good'. The Income Tax is nothing but an unconstitutional tax and SHOULD NOT BE PAID by any Constitution-respecting and abiding by citizen of the US If you CAN, let this guy know!!------->www.showedthelaw.blogspot.com C'mon its money in the bank!

[Howie]

This from what I understand IS true. My friend and I looked into this. Try getting away wit hit though. See how far you get. Like anything political in this system, we need power by numbers. But we can't get three people to agree on any issue in this forum.

[Conforming Non-Conformist]

You + Me = 2 one more and we got a revolution!!! a lot of people are supporting this. It is not main-stram broadcast by the owners of the counrty but that does not mean that people cannot be made informed...tell 3 people to tell 3 people and see where it gets

[Ynot]

Do you expect the state to support you financially once you retire?

[Conforming Non-Conformist]

No not at all, i could not expect another country to support me when i retire

[Howie]

Do you expect the state to support you financially once you retire?[/b] No, Social Security.

[Ynot]

another country to support me when i retire[/b] do you expect your own government to provide you with a basic state pension once you retire? No, Social Security. [/b] ok, the US must work differently from the UK in that case, never mind

[Conforming Non-Conformist]

My government has laws in place that have been PASSED that make me accountable for paying Income Tax. I have no choice unless i no longer wish to live here. There is no law there that requires US citizens to pay it. Dont worry i see where you are leading me.... "Income Tax goes toward retirement funding" ... Here we have a CPP that we pay toward seperatley from our earnings as another tax for our benefits after we retire, so Yes I do expect my own government to provide me with a pension when i retire. This is a pipe dream of course, because the second i go to collect i'm sure it will have been dwindled away by the baby boomers....but that is another topic that i do not want to get into. anyone else checked this out yet ? ---edit--- CPP - Canada Pension Plan

[Artelis]

But we can't get three people to agree on any issue in this forum. [/b] You're wrong. I'm just going to be the one to say this. What happens when everyone stops paying taxes? Whoooops, there goes our government.

[Conforming Non-Conformist]

so how did the government exist before 1913 when the income tax was instated???

[MSG]

Back then, people felt lucky to be in America. There were no ungrateful bastards like you here.

[Artelis]

so how did the government exist before 1913 when the income tax was instated??? [/b] Other forms of taxation?

[Kaniaz]

Yeah, sorry guys, tax is not a recent invention of any sort. Income tax has just become more of a possibility as we gear ourselves towards the wonderful world of bureaucracy - barely a single transaction goes by without there being records now. Feel free to use this flimsy argument when the IRS pay a visit, though. I doubt they've heard that one before. I'm sure it would take about ten seconds to change whatever hare-brained loophole supposedly exists.

[Conforming Non-Conformist]

Back then, people felt lucky to be in America. There were no ungrateful bastards like you here. [/b] Yet another great post brought to you by MSG!!!!! TAAAAA-DAAAAA!!! The real shame is that there are too many imprudent bastards like you here today Yes i can see how you would probably be one of those people who feel "lucky" just to have the illusion of America and the government looking out for the people best interests. Great to know that the search for truth is dead and the ignorance of the lucky ones are fueling it. Maybe before i go on you would like to tell me how the government (un-constitutionally) taking money from its citizens makes them 'feel lucky'??? Other forms of taxation? [/b] and whats wrong with just using those?

[Artelis]

Great to know that the search for truth is dead and the ignorance of the lucky ones are fueling it.[/b] More existential bullshit, please. and whats wrong with just using those?[/b] State taxes are different than national taxes. Military, welfare, people actually in office, etc.

[Conforming Non-Conformist]

again, how did the 'nation' survive without this much needed Income Tax before 1913? are you saying that the income tax is rightfully a national tax?

[Kaniaz]

bastards[/b] TAAAAA-DAAAAA!!![/b] search for truth is dead[/b] one of those people[/b] All the hallmarks of an open minded thinker right there, sir!

[Neruo]

One of the most complex and silly things on earth is the American Tax system. Anyhow, If people would stop paying tax, maybe they would stop spending billions and billions on war. Enough to totally abolish poverty in America, by the way.

[Artelis]

again, how did the 'nation' survive without this much needed Income Tax before 1913? are you saying that the income tax is rightfully a national tax? [/b] No, but it IS a check on capitalism. One of the most complex and silly things on earth is the American Tax system. Anyhow, If people would stop paying tax, maybe they would stop spending billions and billions on war. Enough to totally abolish poverty in America, by the way. [/b] you must've thought about this one for a really long time. Can you back up your claim?

[Conforming Non-Conformist]

All the hallmarks of an open minded thinker right there, sir! [/b] Did you even make a point on here yet or just inciting an arguement? Why dont you back up MSG on that great starter posted on the 1st page? Ohh my bad, picking and choosing as usual. Come back when you want to discuss the topic and not my lack of "free thinking" or continue on your course recognizing that you are only inserting your 2 cents between words that have nothing to do with you.

[Artelis]

All the hallmarks of an open minded thinker right there, sir! [/b]

[Conforming Non-Conformist]

you still have not told me how the nation survived before 1913 and before you edited your last response also, where is the law?

[Kaniaz]

words that have nothing to do with you.[/b] Nope, this is your topic, no comments that you don't like are allowed! All the hallmarks of an open minded thinker right there, sir![/b]

[Artelis]

you still have not told me how the nation survived before 1913 and before you edited your last response [/b] well, my edit was to add more to my post, I didn't change anything before my list. There was a much smaller need for large sums of money. however, that doesn't really matter. Income tax is a check on capitalism. It keeps our economy in line. After the industrial revolution, the economy became extremely lop-sided. Income tax was a great balance.

[Neruo]

you must've thought about this one for a really long time. Can you back up your claim? [/b] Sure I can http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/WhosCount...4304&page=1 700 BILLION dollars spend on war http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story...1712965,00.html 37 million poor Americans. 700 BILLION / 37 million = 1 891.89189$ per person. Maybe I under estimated how many poor people America has, but if all the money the war cost was spend on people, America would have been a whole lot richer. - Not like I was completely serious on what I said. Serious starts with an S, children.