How was i "owned" it wasn't that great of a comeback i was just wondering why he decided to talk that way.Quote:
Originally posted by Truthbearer
OWNED!!!!
Not really that much, but I am truly bored...
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How was i "owned" it wasn't that great of a comeback i was just wondering why he decided to talk that way.Quote:
Originally posted by Truthbearer
OWNED!!!!
Not really that much, but I am truly bored...
He decided to talk that way for the same reason you decide to talk the way you do.So yes, in essence, you were Owned. :lol:
I what way do i talk.
*twitch*
Didn't expect that but we should just get back on topic. :)
What topic :?: lol here at dreamviews we always go off topic.
No thanks to your ass. :lol:
owned twice in one topic :P
What i want to know is why you have been looking at my *** milhouse :?:
I have a major quarrel with time traveling while on earth. If you traveled back in time on earth, then you wouldnt be on earth anymore. You need to remember that while you are traveling back in the time, the earth is moving, therefore when you stop traveling back in time you would appear in space, or inside of another object, which would be like stepping into a particle accelerator. But you're saying "hey, what if he went back in time exactly 200 years in the past?" Well you still wouldn't wind up on earth because as the the earth is rotating around the sun, the sun is also rotating around something else. But you're also saying "Hey! Couldn't he just get send back in time, appear in the middle of space, and then just fly his space craft back to earth?" Good luck with that feat... Let's say for a second that our solar system would be 1/8 light years away (That's just a complete guess) If he even could move fast enough to get there within a months time, he would need the a nuclear reactor to generate enough power to move that fast. Let's look at some quantum theory crap for a second- If we were to move at the speed of light without expanding towards infinity, we would have to increase the speed the light. To do this we would need to move the space itself that is surrounding us so we could move faster than possible, relative to the outside of our "warp bubble". It's basically like "Running on a sidewalk that is already moving towards your destination". If you can find a way to generate enough power to do that without fitting a nuclear reactor into the back seat of your craft, I'll buy it from you.
*edit*
Oh and another thing, the earth is also rotating around it's pivot point; you know how it's tilted? Well that tilt is slowly changing.
It's been changing for quite a while, now. Everything is moving. They say the moon moves little by little ever year, and that the universe itself is moving together at a center point. That hypothisis is another part of the big bang theory, that the cycle continues for an infinite amount of time.
like:
----------------->O<---------------
<------------EXPLODE!----------->
----------------->O<---------------
<------------EXPLODE!----------->
ETC., ETC., ETC....
So is there ever a center where everything rotates around.
Who knows? Maybe. I couldn't give you an answer.
Thats a good point, everyone assumes you just land back on earth but maybe you wouldn't. Infact going back a day you land inside a mountain or something.
I guess if you could some how a target an object and follow it backwards through time you would land in the right spot however.
If you were traveling through time, then all other dimensions would not apply to you (I think that's something I heard, I'm not sure.) And secondly, if you were to travel back in time and land in a mountain, whats the difference between landing in a mountain and landing in an air filled environment? The oxygen, carbon, and whatever else in the air would combine with your body, which I'm pretty sure would once again be like stepping into a particle accelerator (Is my analogy correct?)
Sounds logical.
Oh and another thing, there is no proof that time even exists. I myself have always had a firm belief that time does not exist. I'll explain my theory tomorrow, but for now I'm goin to bed cause I can hardly keep my eyes open!
Who is to say you don't just push the air particles out of the way? Would make sense its not a solid like the rock. Of course if you did it inside of a mountain its not going any where, and if it does your still stuck in the rock.
If somebody invented a time travel machine, suddenly there would be tons of army folk guarding it, because they can't have people messing up time. I expect there would be fights between parties, "For Time Machine" and "Not For Time Machine". The "For Time Machine" would say that they could help make the world a better place, by going back and stopping wars or whatever, but the "Not For Time Machine" party would say 'hell no!' time is time and you shouldn't mess with it, if you stop wars alsorts could happen. While this battle is going on, some lunatic runs past the army men (somehow), and gets in the time machine, flies off and a few seconds later the entire timeline of the universe is changed.
Time Travel wouldn't be a good thing, I don't think. And I don't think it's possible. The universe has some real "tough luck" rules that come with it - such as 'two things can't occupy the same space at once'. So if you travelled back in time, and you ended up in a mountain, what happens then? You can't be in a mountain because two things can't occupy exactly the same space. Do you just explode?
Time traveling may be possible theoretically.
Time traveling may cause some bad consequences. (Who knows?)
I don't think anyone should try to perform time traveling.
Anyway, I believe that the future is predeterminatet, and that is my viewpoint about why some have the ability to see what happens in the future, before it actually happens.
If this is true, it is then also predeterminated if anyone success with time traveling.
Now, I read the Time Machine a few years back, and the main character said he was to be careful not to stop the machine prematurely or not at the right moment, because though the basic dimensions and their physics did not apply to him, the moment he would rematerialize he could land strait inside a wall or building structure, totally destroying his particles.
Time does not exist in the manner that we think; it is just a concept created by humans to comprehend certain things, and to make dates and such. I believe time is just like a camera strip of film. Each frame is continously happening in a loop, we just "move" down. The frame still exists--our selves of the 1 second ago loop exist too. They noted that that was a second of time. The frame is infinite, but we don't realize it because we're viewing the strip like a moving film.
Ok now here's why I don't believe time exists:
If time exists, what makes us move forward in time? If we are moving forward in time, then we are traveling through time now aren't we? Secondly, the concept of time was probably unintentionally created to explain memories of the "past". Let's say for a second that I have an apple that has been around since the "dawn of time", if you can go back in time and see that apple when it first existed, then how is it there if it is in the future? I'm going to refer to time as the fourth dimension, so let's say right now the coordinates of the apple are 50,24,36,947 , 947 would be the apple's current spot in the timeline. So if the apple is continuously moving forward in time, then how can it exist in the past? There is an explanation for that however: IF you were to travel back in time, you would inherently create a change in the past by you being there. If you are there, then things in the future will change (You breathed in some air, you took up space, you stepped on an ant, etc.) But if you are to go back into the past when past itself doesn't even exist, you create an alternate timeline, hence another dimension, which I think would be construed as the fifth dimension; so now you have the x, y, z, time, and dimensional coordinates. I don't think I explained the dimension theory very well, but I think you got the picture. And secondly, I kinda disagree and agree with that infinite dimension theory, but my gut rests on the belief that there is an absence of time.
Somebody else wanna try and explain why there could/couldn't be time?
People have problems with clonning and stuff because they think its bad. Well time travel is like 30 times worse.
Death-Wuad, that is exactly the reason I believe that time is split into frames (who knows the exact length of them; maybe a measurement we can't comprehend). Different perceptions make you think your moving in time, but your probably just going from one frame to the next.
Everybody has kinda confused me but Death Wuad's theory is probably right.
I am sorry, but that really didn't make much sense. Here's the thing: Time is not by itself. It has consequences, things happen during it. Sometimes it is associated with movement, with(in the example of the apple) its mass decreases due to the fact we take a bite, with decay. All these actions are goint to go hand in hand with time, they all become one element. Therefore, when you go back in time, all the other actions that were associated with its passing also occur.Quote:
Originally posted by Death-Wuad+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Death-Wuad)</div>Yes, so?Quote:
Ok now here's why I don't believe time exists:
If we are moving forward in time, then we are traveling through time now aren't we?[/b]
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Let's say for a second that I have an apple that has been around since the \"dawn of time\", if you can go back in time and see that apple when it first existed, then how is it there if it is in the future? I'm going to refer to time as the fourth dimension, so let's say right now the coordinates of the apple are 50,24,36,947 , 947 would be the apple's current spot in the timeline. So if the apple is continuously moving forward in time, then how can it exist in the past?
If you create a chart that explains this situation by listing all the factors you will be able to see that by going back in time you will inevitably go back to the original position, state, etc. that coincided with it when time was going forward. The fact that something exists in a certain time and place and it still exists now in a different state is not really a paradox. What happened before is what got it there now. It is in two different locations, but that is only cause it is in two different positions in the timeline too...