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      What's cool with humor and what's not?

      So... does humor know boundaries?

      Can we make jokes about child abuse, mass murder and this guy?


      Is this tasteless or awesome?

      I think humor knows no boundaries, because that's just what humor is. It keeps things in place by creating a virtual reality to go batshit insane over the happenings in the world.

      It's much preferable to things that are BOTH stupid and serious, such as organized rhyme.

      Tumor is if you can laugh about it anyway.

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      LOL you really got me with that picture, thanks for posting!

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      Well, the boundaries of humor are arbitrary, of course. Personally, I don't think humor should be sought at the expense of other people's suffering. I mean, a jab every now and then is ok, but I think something like (just to use an example) getting a laugh out of making an "I did it for the lulz" poster out of a man that held his daughter and children captive for 24 years, and repeatedly raped them, is just bad form.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut View Post
      Well, the boundaries of humor are arbitrary, of course. Personally, I don't think humor should be sought at the expense of other people's suffering. I mean, a jab every now and then is ok, but I think something like (just to use an example) getting a laugh out of making an "I did it for the lulz" poster out of a man that held his daughter and children captive for 24 years, and repeatedly raped them, is just bad form.
      Umm, now I feel bad.

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      Shock humour, humour that pushes the boundaries of what we would consider tasteful and distasteful, is an interesting one.

      Shock humour works on a variety of levels, it is risque and daring, and often highly ironic. We find ourselves gripped by a morbid pleasure derived from mocking the 'untouchable'.

      I'll admit I favour shock humour. I think it's important that we should be confident enough in our morals and principles to say, "I'm not laughing at this because I think raping your daughter is okay".

      It is important to draw a line when it comes to actually offending people - you would not, for example, tell such a joke to the victims themselves. That would be distasteful.

      But if you look at shock humour with intelligence, and can accept that you are not letting it demean the severity of the subject in question, then you should be able to enjoy it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Siиdяed View Post
      Shock humour, humour that pushes the boundaries of what we would consider tasteful and distasteful, is an interesting one.

      Shock humour works on a variety of levels, it is risque and daring, and often highly ironic. We find ourselves gripped by a morbid pleasure derived from mocking the 'untouchable'.

      I'll admit I favour shock humour. I think it's important that we should be confident enough in our morals and principles to say, "I'm not laughing at this because I think raping your daughter is okay".

      It is important to draw a line when it comes to actually offending people - you would not, for example, tell such a joke to the victims themselves. That would be distasteful.

      But if you look at shock humour with intelligence, and can accept that you are not letting it demean the severity of the subject in question, then you should be able to enjoy it.
      That is in fact very well put and resonates with my thoughts on this subject.

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      You have to think about who your audience is. Here on the forum, there is a target audience and then there is also the general audience who could happen to stumble across your comments. What is perceived as humor depends upon the proprietary boundaries of your audience.

      To people with a morbid/twisted sense of humor, that may be perceived as humorous. However, the general audience - of which I am a part - may feel that trying to add a little quip to a now notorious torturer is in bad taste. Under different circumstances, that picture might have the appropriate shock value to get a desired response, but I do not find it funny.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Siиdяed View Post
      Shock humour, humour that pushes the boundaries of what we would consider tasteful and distasteful, is an interesting one.

      Shock humour works on a variety of levels, it is risque and daring, and often highly ironic. We find ourselves gripped by a morbid pleasure derived from mocking the 'untouchable'.

      I'll admit I favour shock humour. I think it's important that we should be confident enough in our morals and principles to say, "I'm not laughing at this because I think raping your daughter is okay".

      It is important to draw a line when it comes to actually offending people - you would not, for example, tell such a joke to the victims themselves. That would be distasteful.

      But if you look at shock humour with intelligence, and can accept that you are not letting it demean the severity of the subject in question, then you should be able to enjoy it.
      Well said. I can see both sides of the issue, though. To some, it could be nothing more than "tongue in cheek" humor, as you implied - as if to say: "I'm not laughing at the situation, but, rather, the creative comedy I have created with the situation as being the inspiration." To others, though, it comes down to the question: "Is nothing sacred?"

      It is just a matter of preference. Telling the joke to the victims is, in essence, not all that different than telling the joke to those that empathize with the victims. To many, it is still exploitation of an event or idea that deserves a little more respect than to be turned into a punchline.

      [Edit: Or...in other words: "What Ame said^" ]
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      It's not funny.

      That's not to say tragedies can't be the subject of humour, though:


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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut View Post
      Well, the boundaries of humor are arbitrary, of course. Personally, I don't think humor should be sought at the expense of other people's suffering. I mean, a jab every now and then is ok, but I think something like (just to use an example) getting a laugh out of making an "I did it for the lulz" poster out of a man that held his daughter and children captive for 24 years, and repeatedly raped them, is just bad form.
      Seconded.

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      I agree with O' and Ame. Usually, it depends on who the funniness is towards, and who made it. And yes, there is a limit to humor. Would you wear a T-shirt with that picture on it to a restaurant? I wouldn't. If it was in a controlled audience, for a TV MA show, maybe, just MAYBE it would be accepted, but other than that...no.

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      Example of shock humour that is generally mild:


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      Quote Originally Posted by Seismosaur View Post
      Example of shock humour that is generally mild:
      I deleted that, last time it was posted, but I will leave it, considering the subject matter of this thread, just to see how it is received.

      Personally, I believe it's completely tasteless, and shows an inability to find humor other than in that which provokes negativity from the general audience. But that's just my opinion.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Seismosaur View Post
      Example of shock humour that is generally mild:

      I know it is horrible, but I laughed. It is probably just because I am 15. I think it is wrong to make jokes like this though.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Seismosaur View Post
      Example of shock humour that is generally mild:


      Hmmm....interesting. I'm an animal lover that won't even EAT animals, and this is humorous to me. Weird.

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