Combining Calea Zacatechichi and Galantamine

[Fiddler's Green]

Has anyone attempted to combine calea zacatechichi and galantamine? If so, what were the results?

[Fiddler's Green]

I'm guessing that is a no.

[DigitalNinjaLee]

no i have not, but just the calea zacatechichi itself sounds interesting. Have you tried it before?

[Fiddler's Green]

So far I have only used galantamine. This weekend I will be using galantamine, choline, yohimbe, and L-theanine, which I will post about in the experiment section.

[PepeLePlume]

from the shamans view red spider lily and calea zacatechichi growing in the same region used by the same indigenous tribe suggests they are likely to be used together for certain purpose. not 100% but definitely worth personal experiential investigation.

[Dthoughts]

Is red spider Lily in its whole form active enough? I suspect it might. Maybe there are more substances in iT besides galantamine. Calea gave me weird things combined with weed and panic. I Will make Some extracts and combine iT with galantamine next week, i'm sure others have tried this as Well considering their populariteit as dream enhancers.

[PepeLePlume]

have you drank the calea after or before smoking it? i feel the combo is important in saturating the blood with its constituents. by definition a tea made from that herb and a smoke lifted from that herb are booth extracts. galantine from the right source is purely an extract of spider lily as opposed to an isolate. would you agree? Is red spider Lily in its whole form active enough? I suspect it might. Maybe there are more substances in iT besides galantamine. Calea gave me weird things combined with weed and panic. I Will make Some extracts and combine iT with galantamine next week, i'm sure others have tried this as Well considering their populariteit as dream enhancers. i also am curious as to the effects of a few other herbs but i don't wanna overload anyone with herbal combos i have no idea what they'll cause. it seems that once entrance into the astral space is attained the slightest tweaking leads to various changes. i.e. yohimbe/mucuna/kava/lemon balm etc etc

[Dthoughts]

Is smoking an extraction? I guess yea but i would not define it as such. And I consulted google it seems that you need a looot of red spider lily to get only a little bit of galantamine. In japan the red spider lily is actually associated with death and used to decorate graves because the balms are poisenous, and mainly used to keep pests away in the garden. lemon balm contains harmine which is a mao-inhibitor which will probably induce traces and seeing auras. as a possible side effect you might be unable to sleep though There's probably more alkaloids present. You could try Syrian rue/B. Caapi if you want to try out harmine. Kava is a GABA potentiator. Which is exactly the opposite of coffee, which is a GABA inhibitor. It might be interesting to try and dream since this is also a neurotransmitter that facillitates different sleep stages. I have some lying around, i will also try that. I am afraid i won't like it though, i'm sometimes even afraid to smoke weed in my current conscious state. About the Calea+weed, i smoked the weed about 45 minutes after i drank the Calea. This resulted in a slight panic (i was outside, with people i didn't know) on the way to my room i started having audio hallucinations. Underneath the covers of my bed i experienced a cold feeling in the body and involuntary vibration of muscles even though my room is warm. It was kind of scary but i think it is just a normal body reaction to cold or vice versa. When actually sleeping the body loses temperature so perhaps i was 'sleeping while awake' and the weed triggered this. That should explain why i was hallucinating so heavily.

[anderj101]

Please don't necro-post in an old thread when the OP hasn't been active in over 4 years. It would be much better to start a new thread.