SISP sleep paralysis made easy!

[hypnotoad1579]

SISP (Sugar Induced Sleep Paralysis) Materials: Plain sugar (2g works best for me, though this varies depending on your sugar tolerance.) Mellow music A calm dark sleep room Mood lighting (optional but recommended) Steps: Get extremely tired. I'm talking about the state where thoughts like, "If my head touches the pillow, I'm out." are running trough your mind. Turn on your mellow music in preparation for your SISP. Ingest the sugar. Lie down in a comfortable half-upright position. Allow yourself to relax and become as loose as possible. Relax your eyelids and allow them to rest in a half-open position. Clear your mind and let your mind flow with the rhythm of the music. Sugar: As mentioned earlier, your sugar tolerance level plays a key factor in this method. Some experimentation may be required to find your perfect amount. I also advise you to ingest your sugar in a pure form, not within a food product. As this has provided almost 10x better and more common results. Enjoy!

[DreamChaser]

My eyes flutter at half open. It might just ne me tho.

[Garjzla]

tu tienes razon? (do you have reason, or are you serious) this is a crazy idea for sp, i think i will try it without the sugar, because i do not have pure sugar in my house and my mom will wonder why i am stealing sugar at night....

[hypnotoad1579]

tu tienes razon? (do you have reason, or are you serious) Indeed I do have reason and am serious. I have tested this method on ten people including myself with optimal results in every test. My eyes flutter at half open. It might just ne me tho. Just keep your eyelids in the most relaxed open or partially-open position for you.

[Howie]

Wow. I wonder how and what role sugar plays in SP? That's interesting. Thanks!

[Shift]

Why can't you just do this without sugar? Or even listening to music? Being that tired and in that position are sometimes said to induce SP all on their own. What makes this a unique method? Were your tests double-blind? Sorry, I've gotta play devil's advocate.

[TheMoon]

Why can't you just do this without sugar? Or even listening to music? Being that tired and in that position are sometimes said to induce SP all on their own. What makes this a unique method? Were your tests double-blind? Sorry, I've gotta play devil's advocate. Yeah the only key factor here. Is the being really tired. Whenever i'm really tired, been up 24+ hours. I can lay right now and go into SP pretty easly. Don't need music or sugar. In fact ive found it pretty easly to get SP and WILD from being really tired. Im also the type of person who eats very very little sugar. I never eat candy and i like my coffee white with no sugar heh.

[hypnotoad1579]

The whole point of all this stuff claimed to be not needed is to lengthen the phase of SP that causes hypnagogic hallucinations and make them more pleasant. I rarely here of people talking about pleasant and lengthly hypnagogic hallucinations and that is why I posted this tutorial. Sorry if I didn't specify such things well enough in my original post.

[Shift]

The whole point of all this stuff claimed to be not needed is to lengthen the phase of SP that causes hypnagogic hallucinations and make them more pleasant. I rarely here of people talking about pleasant and lengthly hypnagogic hallucinations and that is why I posted this tutorial. Sorry if I didn't specify such things well enough in my original post. But what about the sugar leads you to believe that it will extend the length of time that you are in SP for? Why would music have an effect? What has that got to do with hypnagogic hallucinations? Well, the title of your thread says that it will induce sleep paralysis, not extend it. Maybe that's where I got confused?

[TheMoon]

But what about the sugar leads you to believe that it will extend the length of time that you are in SP for? Why would music have an effect? What has that got to do with hypnagogic hallucinations? Well, the title of your thread says that it will induce sleep paralysis, not extend it. Maybe that's where I got confused? "SISP sleep paralysis made easy!" Was what i read lol. SP is already easy when you haven't slept in a while.

[hypnotoad1579]

But what about the sugar leads you to believe that it will extend the length of time that you are in SP for? Why would music have an effect? What has that got to do with hypnagogic hallucinations? Well, the title of your thread says that it will induce sleep paralysis, not extend it. Maybe that's where I got confused? Yet again, sorry for the lack of details. Anyways, about the affects that sugar and music have dealing with this. First of all the sugar, it gives you energy to stay in the hallucinating stage for much longer than just plain being tired. It also seems to have the affect of getting you to the perfect energy level for hallucinating(with experimentation of course). Second of all, the music. It drowns out the strange and frightful sounds that sometimes come with this stage. Also it sets the mood of your hallucinations to a generally mellow and content feeling. I believe that one of the reasons that auditory hypnagogic hallucinations are so often frightful is that the empty silence and darkness remind our minds of our fear of the unknown. I hope this clears things up a bit better.

[Shift]

Yet again, sorry for the lack of details. Anyways, about the affects that sugar and music have dealing with this. First of all the sugar, it gives you energy to stay in the hallucinating stage for much longer than just plain being tired. It also seems to have the affect of getting you to the perfect energy level for hallucinating(with experimentation of course). Second of all, the music. It drowns out the strange and frightful sounds that sometimes come with this stage. Also it sets the mood of your hallucinations to a generally mellow and content feeling. I believe that one of the reasons that auditory hypnagogic hallucinations are so often frightful is that the empty silence and darkness remind our minds of our fear of the unknown. I hope this clears things up a bit better. Yes, now I understand your reasoning Still, I have to ask Were your tests double-blind?. I must post a big See http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ead.php?t=6881 for the Research Guidelines. If you think it will work, send an experiment proposal to someone on the staff, and head over to the research forums(http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...splay.php?f=32) for discussion and to recruit participants. Once studies have been conducted we can establish if it is really able to induce lucidity.

[DreamChaser]

Just keep your eyelids in the most relaxed open or partially-open position for you. Well thanks for the advice. Not possible. From a slight squint to almost fully closed they flutter. Any other advice for me? I'm kinda new at this stuff.

[spaceexplorer]

Sorry Hypnotoad. Copletely unconvinced here. There are two assumptions here that dont make sense. The first is that you need "energy" for hypnogogic hallucinations. The second is that sugar will give you the correct "energy" for these hallucinations. If you are so tired that falling directly asleep is almost inevitable, I'm not convinced a bit of sugar will do much. Perhaps a little caffeine may? Please dont take my criticisms personaly, we're all here to learn and improve our kowledge, in which case we need to be critical of unproven theories, rather than fill our minds with information that could be false (which wastes everyones time) There are a few factors that I have no information on. Things such as, how soon after ingesting sugar does the blood sugar level change in the body? Are there factors that effect this? Does blood sugar level effect awareness even when asleep? Would different types of sugars (glucose for example) be more effective (if ther is any effectivness in the first place) Your tests, who were they performed on. Would you be kind enough to share your data with us? Were the tests double blind? My suggestion for the future would be... rather than start a thread that makes a direct claim, maybe start a thread that asks a question... such as "Does sugar intake help conscious sleep paralysis?" The we can all work together to see if your theory has any basis in fact. Then when it does... we can post a thread with a good deal of evidence to back up the claim.

[hypnotoad1579]

Sorry but I don't have much time to respond at the moment, but I must respond to at least this part here. My suggestion for the future would be... rather than start a thread that makes a direct claim, maybe start a thread that asks a question... such as "Does sugar intake help conscious sleep paralysis?" The reason why I did not act in this manner is because I have already proved to myself and many others that it works. Perhaps you should try my method before you question it. Especially because of the fact that you are going to convince your mind that it doesn't work and it wont only because of that. I will answer all of the rest of everyones questions later tonight. Thanks for your time!

[Warrior381]

Sorry but I don't have much time to respond at the moment, but I must respond to at least this part here. The reason why I did not act in this manner is because I have already proved to myself and many others that it works. Perhaps you should try my method before you question it. Especially because of the fact that you are going to convince your mind that it doesn't work and it wont only because of that. I will answer all of the rest of everyones questions later tonight. Thanks for your time! I think he is talking about taking drug or DMT thing..

[spaceexplorer]

Sorry but I don't have much time to respond at the moment, but I must respond to at least this part here. The reason why I did not act in this manner is because I have already proved to myself and many others that it works. Perhaps you should try my method before you question it. Especially because of the fact that you are going to convince your mind that it doesn't work and it wont only because of that. I will answer all of the rest of everyones questions later tonight. Thanks for your time! Which is why i'm asking if you could share your results. If you've proved this so convincingly, surely there must be some kind of data to back up your claim? I understand the placebo and nocebo effects perfectly well, and i'm reserving judgment on your idea. If i tried everything before questioning it, i'd probably not have lived into my 30s. Personally I think it's wise to question things before trying them. Do you mind if I ask your age?

[Shift]

Especially if it's just a placebo effect, which is why it's important to control all aspects of an experiment. If it's just a placebo effect, why the hell should we all be eating sugar? Why not just BELIEVE that laying down and being tired will give us SP?

[hypnotoad1579]

Well thanks for the advice. Not possible. From a slight squint to almost fully closed they flutter. Any other advice for me? I'm kinda new at this stuff. I guess just relax your face as much as possible then. Don't try to force anything into any position whatsoever. The first is that you need "energy" for hypnogogic hallucinations. The second is that sugar will give you the correct "energy" for these hallucinations. If you are so tired that falling directly asleep is almost inevitable, I'm not convinced a bit of sugar will do much. Perhaps a little caffeine may? There are a few factors that I have no information on. Things such as, how soon after ingesting sugar does the blood sugar level change in the body? Are there factors that effect this? Does blood sugar level effect awareness even when asleep? Would different types of sugars (glucose for example) be more effective (if ther is any effectivness in the first place) 1. Sugar and energy. This one's simple. Have you ever tried to stay awake while being as tired as I stated in the tutorial? It's quite hard to for any length of time quite obviously (obvious, like the answers to a lot of your other questions). Next of all, the energy level I have found best for this being induced by sugar. I have another question for you, have you ever tried to get into a meditative state whilst being extremely over energetic? I can tell you from experience, its quite a bit easier to enter a meditative state while you are in a more calm mood and have a mellow energy level. The same principal applies to this situation. 2. Caffeine. the point of using sugar is to get you to that mellow energy level I spoke of earlier. The point is not to make you hyper. Next of all, sugar, unlike caffeine, supplies your body with energy. Caffeine on the other hand, tells your body to use more of the energy your body has at a faster rate. Thus for, caffeine would be ineffective for this application. 3. Blood sugar and such. First of all, sugar is digested in your mouth, so the body's response is quite swift. That is why I stated it should be plain and not in a food item. Next of all, sugar is a part of this method. Whether or not the blood sugar level affects the outcome. This entire method does three things, gets you to a point where you can easily enter SP, gets you the proper energy level to have lengthly hallucinations, and creates the proper stage for enjoyable hallucinations. While your blood sugar level may or may not affect your dreams and or hallucinations, your outlook, mood, and energy level do. Last of all, the type of sugar. This does not matter considering they all give your body energy. Which is why i'm asking if you could share your results. If you've proved this so convincingly, surely there must be some kind of data to back up your claim? Do you mind if I ask your age? Yes, there is data. Why didn't I post it? This is a tutorial, not science class. If you must know though, My actual tests not including me just telling everyone and them saying they liked it involved this. Conducting the test on ten people, five friends five random individuals. Two from the group of friends were informed of what it did, three were not. Three for the random group were informed of what it did, two were not. I asked them all to fully describe every bit of their experience the next day. They all reported that they had hallucinated to some extent. Is that enough data yet? Because I'm really getting tired of people getting over technically skeptical about such a simple method. Finally, my age. Should it really matter if I'm 72 or if I'm 7. Intelligence is not bound by age. Intelligence is gained not only through experience but through your studies and your devotion to them. Especially if it's just a placebo effect, which is why it's important to control all aspects of an experiment. If it's just a placebo effect, why the hell should we all be eating sugar? Why not just BELIEVE that laying down and being tired will give us SP? If you read the section on my experiment you will see that I designed it to test against a placebo effect. As five people had no clue what the hell was going to happen, if anything at all for that fact. Not to mention how I discovered this in the first place, accident. I was tired and wanted to stay up longer. Then I ate some sugar. it didn't have a good enough effect for my uses so I went to bed. It just so happened that I played some mellow music to fall asleep to. As well as the fact that I was going to bed half-upright on my living room couch. On top of it all, the room was only illuminated by a mellow blue LED night light. When I ended up hallucinating after doing nothing in my mind but pop some sugar I was quite amazed. Then, being confused as to why such a thing would occur, I began studying and testing. Once I had fully understood and confirmed my findings, I finalized a method and posted it here for all to enjoy. By getting over technically skeptical you questioners have gotten in the way of enjoying my method for yourself. I realize that questioning things like drugs before you try them is wise. However, over questioning something that can have no negative effect is not. On top of this you are not just questioning my method but denying that it even does anything. Please, for your own good, in the future try something before you deny that it works.

[Shift]

Well, technically I should be locking this and directing you to the research forums. So I was hoping you could provide us with some details about this study you've conducted. Can you?

[hypnotoad1579]

Yes, there is data. Why didn't I post it? This is a tutorial, not science class. If you must know though, My actual tests not including me just telling everyone and them saying they liked it involved this. Conducting the test on ten people, five friends five random individuals. Two from the group of friends were informed of what it did, three were not. Three for the random group were informed of what it did, two were not. I asked them all to fully describe every bit of their experience the next day. They all reported that they had hallucinated to some extent. Is that enough data yet? Because I'm really getting tired of people getting over technically skeptical about such a simple method. Was that not enough? Because there really isn't much more to it. This isn't a study, it's a simple method that I have tested on a small scale. Most of the other research I've done I have already shared with you. Pretty much all of the other research was just like finding out what was even going on and why I was hallucinating. Then I found out about lucid dreaming and sleep paralysis and everything started to fall into place. Anyways, I kindly request this thread not to be moved or locked, due to the fact that it is not research. It is a method for attaining sleep paralysis, whether it is mass-proven and researched or not. That is why it is in the "Attaining Lucidity" section. I also really enjoy being able to directly receive and answer everyones questions in one universal place. Thank you. (By the way, I was wondering why my method is being antagonized while other peoples different methods for accomplishing similar tasks are not? Is it simply because my method is new and foreign to you? Or because it has not been tested on a large scale? I really would like to know.)

[spaceexplorer]

Was that not enough? Because there really isn't much more to it. This isn't a study, it's a simple method that I have tested on a small scale. Most of the other research I've done I have already shared with you. Pretty much all of the other research was just like finding out what was even going on and why I was hallucinating. Then I found out about lucid dreaming and sleep paralysis and everything started to fall into place. Anyways, I kindly request this thread not to be moved or locked, due to the fact that it is not research. It is a method for attaining sleep paralysis, whether it is mass-proven and researched or not. That is why it is in the "Attaining Lucidity" section. I also really enjoy being able to directly receive and answer everyones questions in one universal place. Thank you. (By the way, I was wondering why my method is being antagonized while other peoples different methods for accomplishing similar tasks are not? Is it simply because my method is new and foreign to you? Or because it has not been tested on a large scale? I really would like to know.) Actually I think you are being over sensitive. People are just asking simple questions. It's not us antagonising you, if you make claims about a techinque then dont be suprised if people want facts, details and ask difficult questions. Its not a personal attact by any means. Little things like the name of the methods Sugar Induced Sleep Paralysis, dont actually describe what is going on, which is the first warning signal to me, and makes me question the rest of the method. The sugar isn't inducing anything, other than (as you claim) energy. So the fact the name is making a claim that is incorrect is the first thing that makes people critical. I also think the fact you are being so defensive is also making people suspect your honesty. People only tend to get aggressivly defensive if they feel threatened. If as you say you've tested your theory etc. then why be defensive? a bit of critical peer review is the norm for any claim. And no intelligence is not limited to any one age, but age is not irrelevant. Otherwise countries like the USA wouldn't limit thier presidents to being over 30. The reason I asked was to work out your level of training in the research field. Are you old enough to hold a Degree etc? Obviously it dosn't matter if you are younger at all. Its just nice to know how qualified you are to perform research.

[Shift]

Actually I think you are being over sensitive. People are just asking simple questions. It's not us antagonising you, if you make claims about a techinque then dont be suprised if people want facts, details and ask difficult questions. Its not a personal attact by any means. Little things like the name of the methods Sugar Induced Sleep Paralysis, dont actually describe what is going on, which is the first warning signal to me, and makes me question the rest of the method. The sugar isn't inducing anything, other than (as you claim) energy. So the fact the name is making a claim that is incorrect is the first thing that makes people critical. I also think the fact you are being so defensive is also making people suspect your honesty. People only tend to get aggressivly defensive if they feel threatened. If as you say you've tested your theory etc. then why be defensive? a bit of critical peer review is the norm for any claim. And no intelligence is not limited to any one age, but age is not irrelevant... Obviously it dosn't matter if you are younger at all. Its just nice to know how qualified you are to perform research. ^ well said. Still, how is this related to sleep paralysis? Even if it works, isn't it the simple induction of simple hypnagogic hallucinations? I'm questioning it because there is so little variance between this and just going to sleep to experience sleep paralysis that it makes me wonder if eating sugar does anything at all, and if it doesn't why we should continue to waste our time eating sugar, if the placebo effect works for anything and if a tutorial is irrelevant if anything can be used. Another thought I just had- how long had you been monitoring your partcipants for baseline HH/SP frequency for? How did you measure the presence of atonia in their bodies? How many trials were there? Do you see why these things are important? At any rate, I'll move it to the lucid aids section.

[transflux]

The sugar isn't inducing anything, other than (as you claim) energy. Wrong. The sugar induces a whole bunch of things, including an insulin triggered serotonin response - which is the most relevant one in this discussion. I used to play a lot with this trick, but I actually prefer potatos and interrupted sleep. As for a personal note, the thread starter did not appear overly sensitive for me. It's more like two other dudes playing scientist for each other where there is no need to.

[hypnotoad1579]

Actually I think you are being over sensitive. People are just asking simple questions. It's not us antagonising you, if you make claims about a techinque then dont be suprised if people want facts, details and ask difficult questions. Its not a personal attact by any means. Little things like the name of the methods Sugar Induced Sleep Paralysis, dont actually describe what is going on, which is the first warning signal to me, and makes me question the rest of the method. The sugar isn't inducing anything, other than (as you claim) energy. So the fact the name is making a claim that is incorrect is the first thing that makes people critical. I also think the fact you are being so defensive is also making people suspect your honesty. People only tend to get aggressivly defensive if they feel threatened. If as you say you've tested your theory etc. then why be defensive? a bit of critical peer review is the norm for any claim. And no intelligence is not limited to any one age, but age is not irrelevant. Otherwise countries like the USA wouldn't limit thier presidents to being over 30. The reason I asked was to work out your level of training in the research field. Are you old enough to hold a Degree etc? Obviously it dosn't matter if you are younger at all. Its just nice to know how qualified you are to perform research. Did you not read the post I made? For the last time THIS IS NOT RESEARCH! By the way, I'm not being defensive. I'm being annoyed! You are over complicating an extremely simple thing and you will not give up! Time after time I explain in detail the obvious to you! Get a high school education! Because clearly you don't! Things such as the fact that carbohydrates such as sugar are digested in the mouth were taught in middle school. I see no point in this argument with you nor in telling the likes of you my age. Pointless conflict is idiotic and I simply can not tolerate it. Especially because it all started just from the simple fact that I published my findings in the form of a finalized method instead of a question. I kindly request that you stop harassing my method with your over complications of "needing" professional studies. ^ well said. Still, how is this related to sleep paralysis? Even if it works, isn't it the simple induction of simple hypnagogic hallucinations? I'm questioning it because there is so little variance between this and just going to sleep to experience sleep paralysis that it makes me wonder if eating sugar does anything at all, and if it doesn't why we should continue to waste our time eating sugar, if the placebo effect works for anything and if a tutorial is irrelevant if anything can be used. Another thought I just had- how long had you been monitoring your partcipants for baseline HH/SP frequency for? How did you measure the presence of atonia in their bodies? How many trials were there? Do you see why these things are important? At any rate, I'll move it to the lucid aids section. On the other hand, Shift. I consider your questions much more educated and kind despite the fact that I don't agree with many of your points. I also thank you for your moderative action dealing with my thread. As I did not notice the section you moved it to until I had already posted it. Yet again thank you. I do also apologize for my lack of further description within my original post. I am a man of simplicity and did not realize the need for a higher level of detail when posting this content. Anyways, on to the topic of my tests. I remain solid upon the point that this was not a professional study and that I have already supplied you with nearly 100% of the information on said tests. As I have continually stated they were extremely simplistic and only for the purpose of proving it's effectiveness for it's purpose. As for why it is tiled with the use of the term "sleep paralysis" is because of the fact that that it puts you into the stage of sleep paralysis that contains easily altered hypnagogic hallucinations. By the way, Thanks for your support Transflux.