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      Galantamine and Nicotine = 2+ hour LD?

      Now this is crazy. Apparently after a WBTB, if you take some galantamine and then use a nicotine patch (or smoke a couple cigs?) you can have a lucid dream lasting 2 or more hours.

      http://www.advancedld.com/nicotine.html

      What do you think?


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      Quote Originally Posted by b12 View Post
      Now this is crazy. Apparently after a WBTB, if you take some galantamine and then use a nicotine patch (or smoke a couple cigs?) you can have a lucid dream lasting 2 or more hours.

      http://www.advancedld.com/nicotine.html

      What do you think?
      I think that even a nicotine patch without the galantamine should be able to give you very long lucid dreams. I know it has for me. I don't know how long those lucids really were, but they sure felt like several hours. If you combine nicotine with galantamine/choline, this should increase the effect.

      The biggest problem with nicotine, according to Yuschak, is that it quickly leads to short and long term desensitization. Also, in my personal experience nicotine is a bit unreliable. I can get everything from fantastic LDs to not recalling any dreams at all. Lately I have been experimenting with a 4mg galantamine + 250mg choline bitartrate combination, and it seems to me that it's far more reliable than nicotine. The LDs haven't been as long as the longest LDs I've had on nicotine, but I plan to increase the dose and see how it goes.

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      I've tried a nicotine patch with the galantamine only twice.

      The first time I had an incredible lucid dream lasting about an hour in which I heard music playing throughout the entire dream.

      The second time I couldn't get to sleep, so it was a total waste.

      I've been able to get pretty much the same effects as the nicotine patch provides by taking 600mg of alpha-gpc along with the galantamine/choline, and probably with a lot less desensitization.

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      Now I'm worried!

      Tonight was going to be my next big attempt with Galantamine and Choline. I smoke so my receptors are probobly desensitised. I guess I'll just see what happens but I was thinking about taking Piracetam. It's probobly too close to the attempt - 12hrs. (2:15 PM now, 3 or 4 AM attempt)

      If it doesn't work, that's the final straw!!! I'm quitting smoking and taking Piracetam. I should have the book in my hands on Monday.

      I WILL MAKE THIS WORK!! I WILL NOT BE TWARTED!!!

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