Question to all who tried taking melatonin/B6

[forestloving]

Hey guys, I've read about combinations of melatonin, vitamin B6 and valerian greatly increasing dream vividness and even leading to lucidity. Now I wondered if taking this stuff could alter one's natural abilities of experiencing vivid or lucid dreams, for the better or worse. Has anyone here taken melatonin and/or B6 (~3mg mel./~100mg B6) or even the combination with high doses of valerian (~1000mg) for some time and then stopped taking it? How did it affect your dream intensity, recall and ability to become lucid when you haven't taken the stuff for some time? I don't have LDs all that often, but usually quite vivid dreams and I don't wanna lose this ability just because of taking some supplements out of curiosity. Cheers, Max

[Adam]

I have tried taking B6 before - I used to try 500mg but didn't notice any affects of taking it, either pre or post experimentation.

[unseen wombat]

I've tried b6 and it definitely helped my vividness. I haven't been taking it that long, and I'm on a break right now, and am pretty much back to the type of dreams I was having before. Recall of about 2 to 3 a night and fair to moderate vividness.

[DigitalNinjaLee]

I have once taken this combination. I first took B6 200 at around 6 30, then i took Melatonin 3 about an hour an a half later, then about 30 mins before i went to bed (11:00) i took some Choline 250. That night, i was able to have dream recalls, but they all seemed jumbled up. If i would have concentrated to remember them when i woke up (like i am starting to do now) i think i would have have better results. While I'm at it, i will tell you this. I took Melatonin about 5 days in a row i believe. the last two days took 6 and 6mg with B6. When i stopped taking it, i felt as if i were not remembering my dreams anymore for about a week and a half or so. I was surprisingly upset and really wanted to dream again, nothing lucid, just to remember. This was about a week ago and now i am not picky about getting lucid or not. I just want to be able to remember them and, if i can, get lucid. My personal rule now is to not take supplements too many days in a row.

[moe007]

I tried B6/melatonin recently. I took 3mg melatonin and 150mg B6; my dreams werent anything special, but I had slightly better recall. I think it doesnt have anything to do with the B6, but it was the melatonin that gave the REM rebound effect, giving me better dreams.

[E36Style]

i took 1000mg of b6, 400mg valerian, and 5mg melatonin. couldnt sleep at all, my brain was on a whole other level, moving faster than i could comprehend and tonight im going with 200mg of b6 and i'll let you know my brother has had great sucess with this combo

[moe007]

Wow 1000mg, im surprised you didnt die... How is it, the 1000mg? .. I might want to try this haha... ONLY to add to my supplements knowledge and experiences.

[E36Style]

Wow 1000mg, im surprised you didnt die... How is it, the 1000mg? .. I might want to try this haha... ONLY to add to my supplements knowledge and experiences. lol it might have been pleasant if i werent trying to fall asleep. my body tingled all over and felt fuzzy, lol. and my mind was just racing. i couldnt concentrate on anything. and literal images were passing through my eyes, i couldnt tell you what it was but it was just image after image. it was the most awkward thing. the back of my neck tingled. my fingers and toes were numb. it wasnt an unpleasant experience but i've felt better

[moe007]

Hmmm You do know that when taken in high doses, b6 might cause kidney stones, and can cause nerve damage? Im pretty sure both side effects are only if you take high doses repeatedly.. But i want to know if it is harmful if you do it once, because i want to try taking 1g.

[E36Style]

Hmmm You do know that when taken in high doses, b6 might cause kidney stones, and can cause nerve damage? Im pretty sure both side effects are only if you take high doses repeatedly.. But i want to know if it is harmful if you do it once, because i want to try taking 1g. i imagine it would be large doses over a matter of time, as with any foreign chemical in your body. unlike acetaminophen which can cause liver damage from one overdose.

[moe007]

You have to take 8000mg of acetaminophen in order to overdose, and send your liver into necrosis. Thats 16+ pills of the 500mg each. Thats kinda hard to do With B6, i have 50mg pills, that have a bittering agent added to it, so you dont abuse it. If you put one on your tongue it tastes like the worst unexplainable bitter taste in the world. Im now a pro at swallowing pills without letting it touch my tongue Haha.. Id have to do 20 pills to get 1000mg. I really dont wanna pop all those.

[E36Style]

You have to take 8000mg of acetaminophen in order to overdose, and send your liver into necrosis. Thats 16+ pills of the 500mg each. Thats kinda hard to do With B6, i have 50mg pills, that have a bittering agent added to it, so you dont abuse it. If you put one on your tongue it tastes like the worst unexplainable bitter taste in the world. Im now a pro at swallowing pills without letting it touch my tongue Haha.. Id have to do 20 pills to get 1000mg. I really dont wanna pop all those. my b6 is spring valley brand and ive got 60 tablets at 200mg per tablet.

[moe007]

50mg per pill ftl

[E36Style]

well im going to go ahead and down 400mg instead, ill update you tommorow in my thread http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=55645

[DigitalNinjaLee]

Wow 1000mg, im surprised you didnt die... How is it, the 1000mg? .. I might want to try this haha... ONLY to add to my supplements knowledge and experiences. I think i may try 1000mg as well. Just one time though, Not going to make it a habit.

[shotbirds]

My 100mb B6 didn't really show any 'improvements'

[moe007]

My 100mb B6 didn't really show any 'improvements' 100mg I'm assuming? 100 is relatively low dose. You start to notice differences at 200mg+.

[E36Style]

400mg kept me up all night once again. this time i took the melatonin and waited till i was extremely tired, then took the bg and valerian root and jumped in bed. 2 hours after falling asleep i woke up and couldnt fall back asleep. tonight i will try 200mg....

[moe007]

hmm, any neurological effects? I might try 750mg this weekend, just for the tingles

[shotbirds]

100mg is 100mg than i would usually have

[E36Style]

well i had some crazy dreams, 200mg is the sweet spot. i woke up after everydream but didnt have any trouble going back to sleep

[moe007]

Hmm, i had 250mg once, it was the same as 200 and the same as 150. I want to try 350 or 400mg

[E36Style]

Hmm, i had 250mg once, it was the same as 200 and the same as 150. I want to try 350 or 400mg it helped with my dreams but i wouldnt recomend 400mg if youre trying to sleep