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      Plain Leaf Salvia

      is the plain leaf salvia even worth getting? like could i get the same effect from it as a 5x if i smoked enough?

      this is all part of my quest for cheap lucid dreaming.. i bought an ounce of calea zacatechichi and it's helping me with dreams but i still can't become lucid yet. and i can't afford to shell out loads of cash on extracts and aids so im wondering if the plain leaf is worth it.

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      No don't waste the money on a four minute acid trip...It is not that fun.

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      salvia all together or the plain leaf?

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      All together,Im not sure about plain leaf..but seriuosly don't waste the money.

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      I'd definitely want to try it once to formulate my own opinion but thanks i'll just try and find someone locally who will let me try before i buy now.

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      It's legalIn the United states, It is fun but don't get seroisly into it.

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      yeah i wouldn't get seriously into it i just want to try it see what the trip is like, and if i like it have it as an option to do every once in a while. and i heard it could help with LDing?

      i'm still having major trouble LDing and i just want to find all the aids that can help me.

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      Well if you keep it safe and it helps Lucid then try, but safely.

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      believe me i'm very cautious about these things, and i have strong will power i don't get dependant on anything.

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      Well more power to ya, I am not..I am sober now but I used all that shit.
      It was sad.

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      well good job on being sober. how long now?

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      I really do not think that Salvia will help you with lucid dreaming.

      Salvia is a very strong hallucinogen, I consider myself experienced with drugs and the first time I tried it (20x extract), I literally could not control my self. I fell over on a bed, and was in a state of uncontrollable laughter in combination with trying to cough but couldnt. Basically all the colors that I was seeing at the time mushed together, and it was like looking at a really awkward painting, but at the same time reminiscing from childhood memories. But it only lasts maybe 3-5 minutes. There is quite a trippy afterbuzz that lasts for about 10 minutes.

      I doubt it will help with lucidity because after those total 15-20 mins, you go back to normal, and if you go to sleep you will be shot into deep sleep because of all the serotonin and neurotransmitters that were released during the trip.

      If you want to try it, go for it.

      I dont know what a 5x extract will do for you. Maybe trying a 5x, and taking a small hit then sleeping maybe 1-2 hours later could cause some interesting HI or mini dreams.

      Honestly, I didnt really like salvia. It made me really hot, sweaty, and I didnt feel comfortable afterwards. I mean I was in a totally comfortable setting and with friends i trusted, but after the whole 3-5 min peak, when I came down into the after buzz, I just felt very uncomfortable and there was nothing I could do to feel better. Had to wait it out.
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      I think salvia is very interesting.I have tried the 6.5x extract and that scared the shi* out of me lol but thats because I took a big hit.On lower doses its actually really awesome and the afterglow is amazing.I don't think it helps with lucid dreaming as I have often done it and gone to sleep right after without any noticeable result.if you do try salvia I would recommend going first with the plain leafs and then jumping to the extracts.

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      i dont know what you're trying to do with salvia/dreaming. It lasts a few minutes, and you have too little control over your mind to get into a dreaming state. You'd have better luck sleep depriving yourself, munching down on ~1g of shrooms and immediately zonking out.

      still, i'll bet you my left leg all you get is some fucking insane dreams- with virtually no lucidity/control

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      I still say no do't do it, Why do drugs for dreams?

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      Don't think that salvia does wonders. Rely on yourself and the technics that you got here. If you have a strong will power you should be able to WILD or MILD quite soon. :-)
      IMO! Even if salvia would help you, you would start beliveing "oh this is really great","I should buy some more"...then you'd need more and more.

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      I smoked Salvia 10X ehanced leaf once in a couple of Joints for a Mild but defenitely Psychedelic effect. It was to me somewhat similair than a non-breakthrough vaporised DMT experience. Very relaxant, somewhat euphoric and crystal clear sharpening of awareness/perception, tingling bodily sensations and an overall faint but defenite hint of Psychedalia.

      Don't waste your money on Salvia leafs and extracts though. You can buy a young Salvia plant and grow it yourself very easily. Within no time you'll have many grams of dried leafs...for no money at all. The plant is able to set new root from branches that bend over under their own weight and grow into the soil. So easily you'll have many new salvia plants.

      And it is a plant that just looks exactly like Basil, so it will not attract any unwanted attention to angry, ignorant, full of prejudice and judgement-kind of people.

      And just don't mind the Medieval mentality that many people, also here, have towards psychotropic plants. Read about Salvia on sites like www.erowid.org and base your decision to Utilise or not to Utilise such plants uppon the Salvia-experiences of others and the Plain scientific, health/medical facts of Salvia, instead of folks who tell you either "Fuck yeah go ahead do Salvia"or "Nooo god forbid, Drugs are bad hmmkay?".
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