Funny experience with dream/wake transitions

[grayFalcon]

Hello everybody! I've had a nice experience today with Hargart's excellent technique. For those who haven't read it: when you know that you'll fall asleep in the next minute or so, you start doing a slight movement over and over, and after a while, you RC. In most cases you'll find that you actually are asleep, although you haven't noticed falling asleep. In this case, it worked nicely, and I had my LD. From which I woke up pretty soon. After waking up, I was able to apply the same technique again and went into the next lucid dream. This happend again and again, with the LDs becoming shorter and shorter - basically, I'd just lie there, then I'd do an RC, find that I was sleeping, and I'd wake up again. The transitions weren't hard though, they were more like flowing - after a few times, I could feel if I was sleeping or not, even before doing the RC, and I was able to observe my feeling changing while I fell more and more asleep. This is pretty hard to describe, but I hope that if I can repeat this, I'd be able to learn a whole lot about the process of falling asleep. I guess I'm not the first one to experience something like that, so... any comments?

[Dagaz]

wow! u sound very talented to me.. I would love to learn more about this technique... do u need to go asleep not tired? cuz when I go to sleep at night im just to tired to concentrate when i just fell asleep...

[Tales of Symphonia]

Yeah I had my first LD last night with the HILD Technique, but my LD lasted for about a minute, maybe a little longer.

[Matchbook]

grayFalcon, It seems to me that you have the right idea, but I think you are getting just a little too antzy about RCing. I would wait until new scenery starts to appear before you begin the RC. I think that you are still in too light of sleep and your realization of being asleep keeps waking you up. I start visualizing images in my head until they become more and more real, and eventually I enter a dream, immediately after which I realize I've now entered it and become lucid. You can combine this with HILD. There's sort of a brief lapse where you lose consciousness and enter your dream, but every single time I regain control and become lucid. Just give it more time before RCing.

[SweetMelancholy]

Indeed HILD (hargart's) is a GREAT method...and I wonder why it is not so popular. It's far easier than WILD. 8)

[Universal Mind]

I have tried something like that a zillion times, but it has only worked once for me. I have been in a situation of knowing for a fact I am about to go to sleep immediately tons of times, but usually when that happens, there is no time between the realization and the sleep, so I never get to concentrate. However, one time I awoke from a dream about riding a subway from Jackson to Seattle and passing through a long, underground mall. My clock radio woke me up, and I hit the snooze button and decided to go right back to the same mall. I actually did it. When I got there, I decided to pull off something I to this day have not pulled off in a lucid dream. I tried to go to the Eiffel Tower to meet a girl I know. We had both agreed in the waking world to try this and report what happens. I walked through the wall of the mall and ended up above ground in the parking lot of the basketball coliseum at Ole Miss. I started running on the lake by it (which doesn't exist in the waking world) and heading for Paris. Then, my damn alarm clock woke me up, and it was time to get out of bed. Every time I try to go to the Eiffel Tower, I am running on that lake, which is constantly changing into different bodies of water. I have yet to get to Paris by way of it. Maybe I should try the Atlantic Ocean.