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I'm starting to think those kind of dreams are NON-REM dreams where non-vivid dreams occure. If you happen to be lucid during one of these non-rem dreams, it can be very frustrating because its so damn dark, and not much u do will change that.




I agree with you on that. I often become lucid right after falling to sleep or in the first few hours of sleep and these LD's are very dark and it doesn't seem like I can do much to change it.