Thread: LD that really made me think.

I haven't posted on here is awhile, but I consider myself a pretty experienced lucid dreamer. It has been years since I intentionally tried to have an LD after some experiences in them that scared me away. Every so often however, I can't resist the urge of catching my unconsciousness mid dream and taking control. Last night was one of those nights and in this "dream" the characters were very, very interactive to the point they made me question all that is possible while being lucid.

Before I start, I do not believe LD's are anything more than dreams, so please do not think I am crazy or just looking for attention. This is an LD experience that felt so real that it actually happened and I felt compelled to write about it. I am simply writing to see if anyone else had similar experiences, or can interpret my LD better than I can.

First of all, I believe that we cannot control every aspect of an LD. Our brains are creating the dreamscape but our consciousness is simply interacting with the world we find our selves awake in. Before I start talking about last nights experience I will take you back to a dream I had earlier this year that I can still recall. I became lucid in a large hall, it was a building of some kind almost like a castle with random dream characters.

I walked through a large commons area where there were characters all over the place to interact with. Normal people, but I figure 'Hey i'm dreaming who cares how I behave in this world" it's one of the only times I can be myself saying exactly what my everyday conciseness feels in front of people who are literally just figments of my imagination. I have tried everything from start random fights, making out with some hot dream character, sex, trying dream drugs and getting a dream high to having religious experiences and feeling what I believed was the very presences of God. Basically anything you want to do without judgement or fear of retribution. Not saying I go around raping and killing dream characters but iv'e had some pretty gnarly dream experiences over the years from lucid dreams. In fact when someone says in your dreams, I kind of laugh at that knowing how powerful a dream can be.

Anyway back to this large commons area in this large hall / castle. I am walking around interacting with random dream characters, talking to them and trying to stay lucid by rubbing my hands or spinning around or simply just by reminding myself it's all a dream. I'm on a roll, I am very lucid and having a great time exploring everything feels so real as if it is reality. I get the feeling everyone in this commons area knows who I am, what I am up to, and that they are aware that I do not belong but, kind of just go about their business.

Then I run into a dream character, who calls me out. He knows i'm lucid dreaming. He seems to be some type of authority figure, not a god but almost like a keeper of this particular realm or dreamscape. Then he tricks me. He gives me a pill that he claims will make me lucid any time I want to enter his dreamscape. I hold the little white pill in my hand, it had some sort of marking on it but I forget what it is, I think I might of posted about it on these forums before. Anyway I am stoked to have this pill, I put it in my pocket. I do not remember taking it but the next thing I know I am fully awake in my bed stone cooled conscious in the "real world". I make sure it's not a false awakening and I finally realize "yup! I'm awake" ... me still remembering the pill, check my pockets in the shorts I wore to bed hoping that just maybe, by some crazy coincidence I would find my magic dream pill but all I find is lint.

The reason I shared that particular LD was, it was the first time I personally encountered any particular "dream authority". I pretty much wrote it off in my book of cool dreams, where it felt like I had a billion dollars only to wake up realizing I was poor.

So fast forward to last night. I have NO intention of doing any type of lucid dreaming. I am staying over my girlfriends house, familiar surroundings nothing out of the ordinary. We did go to bed a little earlier than usual, but having an LD was not on my mind at all. I knew I had to get up early for work and was only interested in getting a full nights rest.

I fall asleep fast, and sleep deep. I only vaguely remember the first dream I have but my girlfriend wakes me up because I am snoring. I fall back asleep this time I become aware that I dreaming. I am walking to some type of apartment or hide out of some kind with 2 random female dream characters. We are laughing and joking and I get the feeling that I am escorting them home. We go through a large empty parking garage or ware house of some kind. I hear a very loud noise of moving machinery. I look forward and it's a very large bull dozer and it's coming right for me.

I am paralyzed with fear it's almost to late for me to react. I don't care about the other dream characters at this point, nor about retaining my lucidity. I am worried for my 'dream life' as this all seemed in the dream very real. Concrete is the best way I can describe it, fear still being fear even while lucid and knowing your dreaming. I remind myself that it's just a dream and I can get out of it. I try to wake my self up something that I do all the time in lucid dreams with ease, that is usually pretty easy. I try really hard but I cannot wake my self up.

My very consciousness panics as I stare down this very large bull dozer just feet in front of me. I try to get out of the dream scape again, still no luck. Finally I close my eyes as to accept my fate and wake up inception style in another dream space.

I am laying on the road in broad day light in some type of urban city reminiscent to something you would see in uptown New York or San Francisco. Low key but a urban bustling city. At this point I am unaware that I am in a dream as I get up and walk to the side walk brushing my self off. I then remember the bull dozer and the fact that I just had a crazy dream where I was just killed.

It was then I realize I am still dreaming. Before I realize it, I am literally kid napped off the street by a black SUV. Something you would think secrete agents of some type would drive around in. I find myself in this big black SUV tinted windows and your typical agent smith types in nice clean suits. Honestly that's what I was thinking. "What the hell is this the matrix" I go along with it. I am interviewed by these people (both men one might of had a beard) who refer to me as a "dreamer" and them as "the authority". They tell me I was being tested and ask me if anything out of the ordinary happened with my dreams lately. I tell them about me not being able to wake up from the dream and how real it all felt.

They jotted something on a little clip board they had nodding their heads. They then tell me about me being a very skilled dreamer and that I can find them any time on the dream scape and I would know how to find them. They said they had a 'final test' for me and I could join them in the dream world if I choose, as long as I passed their final test.

I asked what would happen to myself outside the dream world if I chose to stay which they gave me a very clear and scary answer. I would simply cease to exist. That I would literally die in my sleep and be free to spend my days in a never ending lucid dream as they described it. It sounded tempting, as I knew I could be, do and have anything I could possibly think of in their world. As I thought about what it would like to be part of this "dream authority" I drifted into another false awakening, but this time remained lucid.

I knew I was dreaming and I was in a parking lot. I looked for the dream authority as I obviously had more questions, my mind raced thinking about what the final test was. I thought to myself what it would be like to be lucid for ever in a world that I could control. I looked for the authority but could not find them. I worked really hard to remain lucid finally finding a black car, not a SUV though. This looked like a large black dodge charger, but somehow I just knew it was the dream authority.

I knocked on the window and a guy got out in a suit, like the others I met. My dream self assumed he was in the authority and I followed him to a cafe or dinner of some kind he led me to. We stood outside this building, it was late in the evening but not dark in this dream scape as we stood on a mound of dirt stepping inside two large individual pipes. All I remember exactly was standing outside next to the authority guy who still hasn't said a word. We then started to sink into the ground with these large spiral metal pips we stood in side by side. We descended like we where in quick sand.

I was not in a panic at all. It was as if I knew it was suppose to happen. Our heads where just about submerged under the ground before we began to rise back up out of these tubes or what ever they where. I then realized what was happening and why it did not strike me with fear. It all made sense as only being able to take place in the dream world. We simply traveled in time, we where in front of the same cafe but at a different point in time. The "authority" asked me if I wanted to meet my future wife.

He led me into a dimly let cafe which seemed to be more of a bar. I sat at a table near the door with the authority member. I looked across the table and did not see what I expected (hoping to see my girlfriend). It was an older women, who seemed like she smoked a lot of cigarettes, she hated me and the authority member. She told me she hated people and asked who we where in a raspy old voice. There was 26 year old dream me staring at a women I found repulsive in her late 40's and all I could think was "wow she hates people too, sounds like she has some of my personality". It was then I remembered "wait a minute this is a dream and these characters are all created by me so that makes sense". I turned to ask the authority member "what is this bull shit!? what is the point of this" as I grew frustrated. It was too late then. I lost all lucidity and only woke up remembering everything I just discussed.

I know this post was long and thank you for taking the time to read it. This dream left me thinking about it all day everything from there being such thing as dynamic authoritative dream characters, to dream time travel and the idea of living forever in the dream realm being able to do what ever I please. Oh and I am still looking forward to seeing what the 'final test' will be as I felt I never got the chance to take it, or perhaps I failed.