Thread: New path through WILDing?

Congrats! I would be interested a tutorial if you would like to develop and refine that technique a little.

Originally posted by Seeker
Congrats! *I would be interested a tutorial if you would like to develop and refine that technique a little.

What Seeker said, it would be nice to have one. If think I might try this if you get one down.

Well, I did think about it - but really it's pretty much the same as Seekers WILD tutorial ( ) - except you take out the part about the lying on the beach and change it to picturing yourself in your bedroom.

But, I'm all for contributing stuff to DV , maybe I'll put in some of the other small things I've noticed and write one up after all!

Tornado, your technique is the exact one I use as well

Haha guess what, I did this same thing yesterday during my exams. I was laying there after I finished with about a half an hour to spare. I layed down and kept imagening the class, where I was laying etc... And I actually started to SEE it through my closed eye lids, naturally this bugged me out and brought me back to reality, but it was very cool non the less, I kept doing it, actually standing up at one point before the exams ended..

DARGHHH!! </span>Had opportunity to use this technique again and I blew it!

<span style="color:darkred">I was in a dream that involved Jason (from "Friday the 13th"). Then, somehow ended up lyin on my back in my bed, but I could hear "Jason" coming towards my room. Then "saw" him about to come in. I couldn\'t move... paralyzed...DUH -- sleep paralysis! Instead of relaxing and realizing that it was all hypnogoggia, I freakin panicked and tried to get out of bed! Sure, could happen to anyone, but I\'m PAST all this HI trickery! At least I thought I was.

I was able to recognize it for a few seconds. I thought to myself "wait, if this was real, (my dog) would be up attacking him". But then, my analytical sense took over and started up with "what if he already killed the dog?!!". And that\'s when I freaked.

Oh well, so close - but the doorway was there, I was back in my room! Next time I will NOT be fooled!

Niiiiice

The thinking about your room and such makes sence. Think I might try that.

Did you feel any weird-ass sensations? ( the word ' ass' is linked to ' weird' and not to ' sensations' , lol )

Yes, the sensations are the common ones associated with the process of falling asleep: some numbness, tingling, stiffness or paralysis, sounds.

There is one thing that usually tips me off, though, and lets me know for sure I'm about to enter the "zone". It's hard to explain, but it's like being underwater or what happens when you completely cover both your ears - it's like a pulsating, deep.... sound I guess. Like being in an airplane really late at night and no one is making a sound. Just the "humming" of engines.

I tried reminding myself that I was in my room this morning when I was hit by sleep paralysis. I think I may have been dreaming about WILDing since it only lasted a few seconds before the vibrations stopped. When I opened my eyes I became lucid the first real lucid I've ever had . Thanks Tornado Joe.

Ahh Wow! That's great Dan! :bravo:

Wow, I actually helped someone accomplish lucidity? Damn, feel like I just gave birth or somethin!! LOL

Now I'm even more determined to keep at this myself!

I'm going to try it again tonight, I'll let you know if it works again.

So Dan??? Work again?

I have used a similar technique before. I find that after a little bit of WILDing, I can imagine myself to be absolutely anywhere, and still believe it. I once believed that my bed was on a beach. I began to hear the sea, and I was so sure that I could just open my dream eyes and get up... I couldn't though. I felt so close... I'm sure if I'd done it after a WBTB I'd have made it.

I'll try tonight.

Originally posted by Seeker
So Dan??? *Work again?

No recall or anything since then , its the weekend now though so that might change tonight.

Before I read this post, I had almost the exact experience. Im not very good at having WilD. I always fight them and try to jump directly into the dream which isnt always easy but just a few hours ago I went through a very similar experience. I had laid down for a midday nap when after about 20mins I realized I was in that body asleep/mind awake stage, but instead of relaxing I always try to fight it and automaticly be in a dream. Well suprisingly that somewhat worked and I soon found myself lucid in my bed. Well after I walked out of my room and into the hallway I felt this current of wind blowing and decieded to just ride it. I drifted down the stairs and right through the front door and ended up in front of my house.(I wasnt expecting to be somewhere else though).So I guess Tornados technique does work.

HAT TRICK, BABY!! Third Lucid of the MONTH! </span>

Learned yet another thing with this technique.... don\'t give up!

I started off the night by reading a little bit of LaBerge\'s new book which I got from him at the dreamcamp (thought it might kinda get me in the mindset). Went to bed normally, not trying any technique, just to doze off. My goal at this point is to get to that first awakening (or any awakening I can be conscious enough to try technique!).

Awakening - FALSE!
I was in the midst of this pretty involved dream. When I found myself "awake" in bed telling my sister about the dream I was just having (she was in it). Of course, it never occured to me that there was no reason for her to be in my room (or house for that matter!) and so missed my first opportunity to try the technique.

Not sure exactly if i drifted off to sleep again or if I awoke for real, but at some point I found myself in that zone were I could tell I was about to slip into sleep. "Yes! Another chance!". So, I started to pay attention to what was happening - sounds or sensations that might signal the "changeover". I was apparently too attentive, therefore couldn\'t get to sleep. I had to just face the fact that I blew my only chance and give up.

But then, I got kinda pissed and I just figured there was no reason to give up - I KNEW this technique worked for me before! So, I went at it again. Besides, I was already lyin there like an idiot! This time, I tried something different....

Submission
Instead of concentrating so much, I "let my guard down" a bit. Let myself get sleepy and not worry so much about WILDing just yet. As I started getting those "random thoughts" I figured instead of preoccupying myself with the sensations, I should just start the technique, and invisoin my room. With eyes closed, I pictured in my head what I would see if my eyes were open: the ceiling fan, door, covers, night stand, etc. At one point I remember thinking that I had actually had my eyes open but wasn\'t sure - so, I tried to move, and sure enough, I couldn\'t! I had entered sleep paralysys yet my eyes were closed and I was still "seeing" my room!!

<span style="color:brown">Stepping Through
I then thought to myself "I won\'t struggle, as soon as I\'m able to move my arms without effort, I\'ll be dreaming." And wouldn\'t you know, just as soon as that thought went through my mind, my arms felt weightless. Lifted them up, looked at my hands, rubbed them, and floated above the bed. Spent most of that dream just flyin around within my room - I\'m still a bit upset about that because I have much bigger plans for lucids, but oh well, it was more of a victory just getting lucid.

I was in this sleep/wake zone a few days ago but couldn't "get away from my body". Along with the sense of sound but after a while, I got up actually figuring this might be a Lucid Dream so I did a reality check to be sure and sure enough, I WASN"T in a dream which sort of got me mad because doing that made me lose the feeling.

I don't know what else I could've done.

Stepping Through
I then thought to myself "I won't struggle, as soon as I'm able to move my arms without effort, I'll be dreaming." And wouldn't you know, just as soon as that thought went through my mind, my arms felt weightless. Lifted them up, looked at my hands, rubbed them, and floated above the bed. Spent most of that dream just flyin around within my room - I'm still a bit upset about that because I have much bigger plans for lucids, but oh well, it was more of a victory just getting lucid.
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I think I'll try this next time.

This sounds like a good method, I think im gonna give it a go and see if I can do it... Though i've never had much luck with Techniques before, something about this one caught my attention and im willing to give it a go.

Wow. Check out my post about my first WILD (almost) in general discussion.

To elaborate on it, I pretty much used the technique you described without actually having read it I seriously just decided to do those things too- it almost came logically to me. Do you ever notice that there is invariably music playing when you "let your guard down"? I don't mean the weird hypnogogia sounds or whatever, I mean songs like the ones you hear in RL. And sometimes the random thoughts you have even manifest into mini-dream images, and BANG you spring back into consciousness when you realise you're engaging SP. It's a really cool technique and I'd recommend it to anyone- I'm trying it again tonight, hoping to get a successful WILD

Hey, glad to hear many of you have tried or are willing to give it a go - any luck so far anyone?
Well, I just had my LD for February in keeping with my quota (at least one per month) and once again it was through this technique!

Funny thing - it didn't happen while trying to WILD...
I think I just happened to notice I was in that zone (having hypnogoggia and nearing paralysis) upon having a brief awakening. I was up for what seemed like an hour before that trying to WILD. But I was just so uncomfortable lying on my back that I had to give that up and just lie in a comfortable position. It was sometime later that I felt the numbing, droning sound, flashing lights and began the technique of envisioning my room. At one point I noticed someone in bed with me (which I knew was false) but somehow bought into it - but not for long. I then got up from my bed knowing I was in dreamstate. Yet again a boring LD because I was just so facinated in exploring the realism of textures and color. It was, however, probably one of the longest LDs to date! I walked through the whole house (which was all different). There were elements of various different places I had lived before which was kind of cool. A collage of my past domiciles - college dorms, appartments, homes, and other stuff I'd never seen before but seemed to be from the past - all pieced together in one structure!

Well, that's it for now - I hope others are having luck with this as well.

Hey that's pretty neat!

I've had my LD:s almost the same way. I just a week ago heard about this word LUCID, and I were interested about web pages containing some information about this topic!
Before I heard about LD, I have had those many many times. And almost every time it has been a WILD method without me knowing it.
Often it went that I wake up during the morning hours and start to sleep again, but I start to picture my room. A shortly after, I think I'm awake but I notice I'm asleep so I went Lucid!
I often wake from that pretty fast but then I just picture my room again and there I am again! After a few times I start to have longer LD:s and I just bang out of the window and fly to the distance!

I had an experience last night that I wasn't sure where to post exactly - but then I realized it belonged here with the rest of my latest technique experiences -- the previous post just confirmed it's validity:

Originally posted by atkn
Often it went that I wake up during the morning hours and start to sleep again, but I start to picture my room. A shortly after, I think I'm awake but I notice I'm asleep so I went Lucid!

Same kinda thing just happened this morning. Usually on weekends I find it difficult to sleep in (because I'm so accustomed to waking up for work during the week). However, this morning I forced myself to just stay in bed until I was well and ready to get up. The following experience is what resulted:

WILDing within a dream:
I'm lying on my back determined to try to wild, knowing full well that REM periods are most extended during the later stages of sleep cycle (early to late mornings). As I'm lying there, I have a false awakening - sort of. I find myself lying as I was, in bed, but there are no covers or sheets on the bed, and there is someone sitting on the bed with me. She keeps telling me not to kill myself. I tell her that it's not really my intention. But I notice there are razor blades spread throuout the mattress. Still, I reassure her that I'm just trying to have a WILD. I also notice that my laptop is open and lying on my chest (I think its monitoring my progress somehow).

Anyway, I close my eyes and after a while start hearing the very realistic sounds of hypnogoggia. I realize I'm at the dream's doorstep so relax and let it get more intense. I then "open" my eyes and look across my chest down to my feet - I notice the background scenery changes like changing channels on a TV while my body remains static. I don't "feel" myself dreaming yet, so I wait and try not to move in fear that if I do I will move my "real" body and wake up.

After a minute or so the dream fades and I end up "waking" lying on my back with the laptop on my chest. I complain about the background changing etc. This other girl tells me that there is a setting on my laptop called "add drop shadow to body" that will help with this issue. LOL - weird, I know. She makes the change, but I end up waking - this time for REAL.

So close, and yet so DISAPPOINTING!! Oh well, yet another caveat to keep in mind when using this familiar room technique.

Joe, I think your technique is a good one. I might have to try it tonight, when and if I get to sleep...

That's great, Gwen! Hope it works for ya!

I had another experience last night - I learned something new this time so I'm going to share:

For the most part I have decided to really not try MILD at the initial onset of sleep (when I first go to bed). Really there's not much point since any dream then would be short and so early in the night that I would most likely forget it in the morning. Instead, I just relax and go to bed with the intentions of remembering to try WILD upon my nightly awakenings.

I remember being suddenly awakened by my neighbor with his damn diesel pickup truck at around 1:30am. Not sure if this is when I tried the technique or not, but that's not important. At some point in the night, I noticed I was in the process of falling to sleep. I was aware, having that numb pulsating sensation and every now and then I could feel my eyeballs 'spazm'. I think I may have been in a semi-conscious state between a sleep stage and REM so I tried to keep myself conscious as I entered REM. I started to experience audible hypnogoggia. But, the more I thought about staying concious - the less real the sounds became. Sometimes they even stopped. I was staying TOO awake. So, I tried something - instead of trying to stay awake, I made the conscious decision to "let go", and let myself fall into the dream.

I can't describe exactly what happened, but it kinda felt like I just let myself plunge into a pool, but there was no water splash. I think i was lucid for a few seconds initially - but there was no imagery, it was dark. The audible sounds returned big time, imagery appeared and I found myself in my room (of course) with a couple friends discussing a couple of my paintings (that are in my room in waking life). It did not occur to me I was dreaming though, so the dream remained non-lucid.

It was disappointing not becoming lucid, but I think the lesson of just "letting go" is one which will help me next time. I've been stuck in that zone MANY times before and it has kept me up many nights. Now I'll know how to get out of it.