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      Accidentally sharing an LD with my boyfriend? VERY weird!

      Alright, so the background is that my boyfriend and I moved in together and are renting a house. He's 23 and has lived on a sailboat his entire life, and teaching him how to live in a house has been sort of a challenge. Another thing is that he gets spooked easily at night by sounds, and will get up to look around.

      Now, for the dream part. This is where it gets a little... strange.

      I was having an LD that I was driving around my boyfriend's 350 Z. I can't drive it in real life (mostly because I can't drive stick very well, and that I'm afraid to wreck such a nice car...haha), so I decided to go driving it around in my dream. I was driving around town, and after a few minutes, I pulled back into the driveway. The car was pretty loud, and I decided against waking him up in the house, because it was really late. As soon as I pulled back out of the driveway, I was woken up...

      When I woke up, Shane got up out of bed and started freaking out... he said "Someone was just in the driveway". I was still groggy, and I didn't quite put two and two together yet. He got out of bed and started looking out the windows, and said "I swear, I heard a 5-speed car... it sounded like it was right outside the window, sat for a few seconds, and then pulled out and went away. Someone was in our driveway..." Still, I wasn't clicking. I looked at the clock and it read 3:50 and I told him that he must have been hearing things, and fell back to sleep.

      When I woke in the morning, I remembered what happened and I started putting things together. Could it be that I was sharing a dream with him? Did he not know he was dreaming, yet he heard the car I was driving? Or do you think there was some sort of insane coincidence that a car actually DID come to the driveway the same time that I DREAMED I came into the driveway? .. . .. .. . .. . .. . .. it's still got me perplexed.
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      Originally posted by Just Like You
      Could it be that I was sharing a dream with him? Did he not know he was dreaming, yet he heard the car I was driving? Or do you think there was some sort of insane coincidence that a car actually DID come to the driveway the same time that I DREAMED I came into the driveway?
      I'm not going to say it's impossible that you had some sort of "shared" or psychic experience or something. But I think it's far more likely that it was some sort of coincidence -- either there was a car near your house, or perhaps he was having a dream of a car in the driveway which had nothing to do with your dream. I can understand being amazed by the coincidence, but remember, the simplest explanation is usually the correct one.
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      What a coincidence. Who knows, it might have been a shared dream .

      People can't mutter 'Hey I am in a car on the drive way with a 5 stick car' right? Becouse of SP... But then again, maybe it was a FA.... I really think it was a FA... oh wait ofcourse you boyfriend allso remembers. lol stupid of me.

      Ok, perhaps a shared dream. Perhaps...
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      I honestly don’t mean any offense to TygrHawk, but frankly I’m sick and tired of the continual use of “coincidence” to explain unusual events. This is the only quasi-scientific explanation that you will ever see. All the rest of their explanations center around calling these events “delusional”. And I think in most cases the simplest explanation is usually the one that the skeptic is most comfortable with, and not necessarily the correct one.

      Was this a shared dream? Not in the classic sense that two Lucid Dreamers got together and had a conversation. But I think it was definitely a shared experience. Very Cool. Is Shane a Lucid Dreamer?
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      No offense taken, Dust Mote -- you're certainly entitled to your opinion on the matter. And believe me, I would very much like to believe that sharing a dream is possible. I think it would be one of the coolest things to experience. I guess that in this particular case, the details were not specific enough to convince me that anything more astonishing than a coincidence occurred. But as I said in the first post, I'm not claiming that any other explanation is impossible, either.

      I definitely do believe that sometimes people can share some sort of psychic connection. If you will indulge reading a bit, I'll tell you one experience that I had...

      I was a teenager, and was in the hospital for surgery on my knee. It was the middle of the night following my surgery, and I had not been out of bed yet. My left leg was completely bandaged up, and it would have caused me great pain to try to put any weight on it, or to bend the knee even the slightest bit.

      But at one point that night, I suddenly woke up to find myself standing next to the hospital bed. I was near the foot of the bed, and the guard rail was still up, so I must have somehow slid myself between the guard rail and the end of the bed in order to get up. I did not remember doing so at all -- I just knew that I was not supposed to be standing up, and I had no idea how to get myself back into the bed.

      Fortunately, I was in a "ward" type room with about 5 other people, one of whom was a football player for Arizona State University (who was there to have his tonsils out, BTW ). He either was already awake, or was awakened by me getting out of the bed -- I wouldn't be surprised if I had screamed at some point. He called the nurse, and then came over and helped me get back into the bed.

      About 20 minutes later (remember, this is in the wee hours of the morning), my parents came into the hospital room. They were stunned when the nurse told them that I had just been standing up beside the bed -- they had not been called. When I asked them what they were doing there in the middle of the night, they told me that my grandfather had had a heart attack, and was brought into the emergency room of the same hospital about 20 minutes beforehand -- right about the same time that I apparently got myself out of bed.

      Now I don't recall having any dream about my grandfather, or anything else for that matter, and I'm still puzzled as to why I got myself out of the bed. But I assure you that this was not any kind of hallucination -- my parents talked about that incident for years afterwards. I am convinced that somehow my subconscious knew that there was an emergency happening in my family, and caused me to react in a way that I really shouldn't have been capable of at the time.

      Make of it what you will.

      Anyway, Just Like You, I didn't mean to derail your topic here. I hope that this discussion helps shed some light on your experience, one way or another.
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      Let me give a really quite obvious explanation here... I don't see how the following explanation is "stretching" or even just trying to stray away from the fact that it was a "shared dream."

      It is HIGHLY possible that someone had pulled into your driveway and then left (tourists sometimes might do this or someone who wants to turn around). You heard it, and had a dream about it. Your boyfriend heard the real car. You do not have it "confirmed" that he thought a car had pulled up the exact time that you were having the dream (rather, in fact, you said you only realized that this could have been related when you woke up and put it together). So obviously you could have had a dream about a car. Your mind would be very suspectible to having a dream about driving a car if you hear a car while dreaming or while in deep sleep/almost asleep.

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      its hard to say. i am certainly open to shared dreams, and other 'paranormal' experiences.

      however, if this happened to me personally, i wouldn't be too quick to attribute it to any unusual causes. it just isn't definitive enough.

      like ataraxis said (and i thought immediately upon reading your post). it is entirely possible that a car pulled into your driveway to turn around, and this influenced your lucid dream.
      you dreamt of driving a car, and he heard a car in the actual driveway..

      there's no way to know for sure...


      let me give you an example of how outside influences can affect a dream.

      i awoke a few nights ago, and felt sleep paralysis immediately reassert itself. i wanted to WILD, so i laid extremely still. suddenly i felt a presence next to my bed, and a voice (that sounded just like my brother's) whispering something like "Asher, you little bitchhhh..." in a drawn out, malicious tone. in the background was the muffled sound of a metal rod striking my desktop.

      i ignored it as a hallucination, stayed calm, and popped out of my body. i chased the entity out of my room and around the corner, where it vanished. i then had a five minute lucid.

      anyways, to tie it in with your experience. yesterday, i was telling my brothers about the that lucid, and as i described the part i just wrote here, my brother started laughing.

      he said he had come into my room that night, and stood next to my bed. as i had told him about my dreamwork before, he wanted to try and influence my dreams.

      so he whispered my name a few times, and then "made a noise like a thunderstorm" as he put it. "KSSHHHHHHH, KSSSHHHHHHH, KSSSHHHHH" with a hard K at the beginning of each sound effect (like the beginning of C-at). then he quietly walked out of my room, and around the same corner i chased my 'dream entity' around after i exited my body to begin my lucid.

      If you put the facts together, it is an excellent example of how outside influences can affect dreams. it really WAS his voice i heard, and there really WAS a presence next to my bed. the hard K sound was interpeted as a muffled rod striking my desk, and the SSSSSSSHHHHHHH was interpeted as bitCHHH.

      *shrugs* just a thought. ultimately, you must decide how stringent the criteria must be for your own determination of what constitutes a paranormal experience.


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      A coincidence is often the most objective deduction, that is most likely why it is used in such cases.
      A coincidence in itself is merely an event caused by different actions leading up to it. Existence in all works through actions. Every action has consequences and every consequence is an action in itself. Thus, a coincidence is the most logical and objective guess one can make about cases without exactly given data such as this one.

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      I realize that some people are saying that I could have just had a dream upon hearing someone pull into my driveway, but my question to that would be that I was having a lucid dream. If I was aware of my dream that I was driving around, how can it be possible that something that happened in real life to trigger that lucid dream? Does that happen? Remember, I'm still learning about *how* these types of dreams work, even though I've been having them for years, so do not take my comments as a lashing.

      Also, not saying that it didn't happen... but what the heck would someone be doing at 3:30 in the morning pulling a u turn in my driveway? Haha. Oh, i also forgot to mention that my house is on a cul-de-sac, you know, one of those giant circles of pavement with all the houses around it... so why would someone need to pull a u-turn in my driveway when they have an entire giant open street to do it in *shrug* Like I said, I'm not saying it did or didn't happen, just saying that if it did, there's some pretty crazy nocturnals out there...heh.

      But the thought of sharing a dream is pretty darn cool, and makes me smile a little

      Also, to answer another person's question, no, Shane does not lucid dream. Or at least I don't think he does. But we are very well connected... I don't know if it's subconcious or spiritual or what, but we do have a very strong connection.

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      Originally posted by Just Like You
      I realize that some people are saying that I could have just had a dream upon hearing someone pull into my driveway, but my question to that would be that I was having a lucid dream. *If I was aware of my dream that I was driving around, how can it be possible that something that happened in real life to trigger that lucid dream? *Does that happen? *Remember, I'm still learning about *how* these types of dreams work, even though I've been having them for years, so do not take my comments as a lashing.

      I don't really understand your question... a lucid dream is no different from a real dream except that you know you are dreaming. So you probably just had a lucid dream with the car in it. And anyways... people do weird things. Someone could have been coming back from a party, etc.

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      Originally posted by ataraxis


      I don't really understand your question... a lucid dream is no different from a real dream except that you know you are dreaming. *So you probably just had a lucid dream with the car in it. *And anyways... people do weird things. *Someone could have been coming back from a party, etc.
      Oh kay. Lets see if I can try to explain my confusion. I know that a lucid dream is no different. What happened, is that I dreamed I was walking around my neighborhood, and I came home and picked up the keys to my boyfriend's Z. At this point, I realized I was dreaming, because that's not something I would normally do, and I became lucid. When I became lucid, I decided "Oh, what the hell... let's see if I can drive it!" So I got in the car and started driving around my neighborhood (I *can* drive stick in real life... just not very well. Strange, considering I can handle a motorcycle with no problem...heh). I came back from driving around the neighborhood, and I noticed that the car was really loud. In my lucid dream, I was afraid of waking up my boyfriend, so I quickly pulled back out of the driveway. Right as I was driving away, I was woken right up. When I woke up is when he started freaking out about hearing a car.

      What I'm asking about your theory is... you say that an actual car coming into the driveway could have triggered my dream. But if I was *aware* that I was driving and I was *controlling* the fact that I was driving, how could a car *actually* coming into the driveway dictate what I did?

      .. . .. . Is that just more confusing? haha. I'm so sorry. I'm helpless
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      Originally posted by Dust Mote
      I honestly don’t mean any offense to TygrHawk, but frankly I’m sick and tired of the continual use of “coincidence” to explain unusual events. This is the only quasi-scientific explanation that you will ever see. All the rest of their explanations center around calling these events “delusional”. And I think in most cases the simplest explanation is usually the one that the skeptic is most comfortable with, and not necessarily the correct one.

      Was this a shared dream? Not in the classic sense that two Lucid Dreamers got together and had a conversation. But I think it was definitely a shared experience. Very Cool. Is Shane a Lucid Dreamer?
      Dude, if you are going to think stuff is real without real proof, it's like relgion, really silly

      Technology in this world got this far by ' It might be coincidence (lets do some more tests). " Not by : ' Hey guys I feel like this is correct so I guess it just totally is.

      Try to have another 'shared dream' and see if you both dreamt the same.
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      Originally posted by Just Like You


      Oh kay. Lets see if I can try to explain my confusion. I know that a lucid dream is no different. What happened, is that I dreamed I was walking around my neighborhood, and I came home and picked up the keys to my boyfriend's Z. At this point, I realized I was dreaming, because that's not something I would normally do, and I became lucid. When I became lucid, I decided "Oh, what the hell... let's see if I can drive it!" So I got in the car and started driving around my neighborhood (I *can* drive stick in real life... just not very well. Strange, considering I can handle a motorcycle with no problem...heh). I came back from driving around the neighborhood, and I noticed that the car was really loud. In my lucid dream, I was afraid of waking up my boyfriend, so I quickly pulled back out of the driveway. Right as I was driving away, I was woken right up. When I woke up is when he started freaking out about hearing a car.

      What I'm asking about your theory is... you say that an actual car coming into the driveway could have triggered my dream. But if I was *aware* that I was driving and I was *controlling* the fact that I was driving, how could a car *actually* coming into the driveway dictate what I did?

      .. . .. . Is that just more confusing? haha. I'm so sorry. I'm helpless
      Well for one, I think it's important to note that the car was "very loud." Things are often much louder when you hear em from real life I believe. Also, the car probably influenced your lucid dream decisions. I'm often quite impulsive in lucid dreams... and it's likely that you could have been influenced by the car. And even if that's not so, it's not farfetched at all to think that it is a coincidence that you were driving a car and another car pulled into your driving.

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      hmm... what I think it could have been is that some one turned around in your driveway, you heard that from the real world, and started making things up to make sense of it in your dream eg the the 350Z. and your boyfriend was awake and heard the real car. I dunno, that's my theory.
      Now we know what happens to today when it becomes yesterday... It waits for them... the timekeepers of eternity!

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      I'll have to go with TygrHawk on this one: shared dreaming is more or less impossible if you look at it from a probabilistic point of view. Hell, shared dreaming is impossible whichever way you look at it. A coincidence.

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      One day at work I looked up and saw a friend of mine walking towards me from across the room. My mind went blank and then I thought: “Fleetwood Mac”.

      My friend walked up to me and said: “I know you’ll know the answer. I’m trying to remember the name of a music group that my girlfriend likes. They play soft rock and they’re very popular, but I can’t remember their name.”

      I looked at him and said: “Fleetwood Mac”.

      “Yeah!”, he said, “I knew you would know the answer.”


      The only time I told this story on the net the explanation came back that it was a coincidence.

      I think it is interesting to note that when TygrHawk explained Just Like You’s story he called it a coincidence. But when he talked about his experience in the hospital he said: “I am convinced that somehow my subconscious knew that there was an emergency happening in my family, and caused me to react in a way that I really shouldn't have been capable of at the time.” It’s easy to remain skeptical, until it happens to you.

      Originally posted by Neuro

      Dude, if you are going to think stuff is real without real proof, it's like relgion, really silly *

      Technology in this world got this far by ' It might be coincidence (lets do some more tests). " Not by : ' Hey guys I feel like this is correct so I guess it just totally is.
      :yumdumdoodledum: Them’s fighten words varmint.

      Let’s see if it is fair to put two of your thoughts together. “Dude, if you are going to think stuff is real without real proof, it's like relgion, really silly. Hey guys I feel like this is correct so I guess it just totally is.”

      Skeptics tend to take the absence of proof as the proof of absence. That really isn’t very scientific. Take this for example: In the year 1800 Sir Frederick William Herschel discovered infrared light. He was measuring the temperature of different colors of the spectrum and decided to measure the area just beyond the red. It was hotter than blazes.

      Now the question is: “Did infrared light exist prior to 1800?” Oh, you could theorized about it, create mathematical models, you could even “believe” it; but you couldn’t prove it. Is it possible that the scientific proof of the paranormal lies just around the corner? And should the proof be found are you prepared to eat all of the eggs on your face?
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