Thread: How do your dreams begin? (LONG)

Habiib,

All these sound like WILD's to me. Are they?

I think the way it happens is simply the way the individual EXPECTS it to happen. I like the movie-clip aspect of yours, and would like to train myself to do it that way, but I think that after doing this for so long, I'm locked into my own way.
When I do a WILD, and am, like you stated, in that in-between state, where you can either simply open your eyes and be done with it (what a waste!!) or continue into it and let it develop, I first hear loud, surging, high-pitched rings in my head. When this happens, I've found that I can still move my body in bed (tap a finger, for example), but next I feel a gripping paralysis of all my muscles. As a kid this scared me, but repetition has taken the fear of it away. The next step is where images form. Out of the darkness comes a colorless, motionless, single image.....almost like a reverse or a relief image. Then voices can come in, other images form, motion and color start, and the dream is off and away, with me at the helm!
Last night, instead of flying or doing some other holy-shit-I'm-dreaming!! thing, I chose to stop at a small restaurant at a carnival and watch an old Italian lady make pasta. Since I knew it was my own dream, I put my feet up on the counter, which she didn't like. She didn't know english, and obviously didn't know that this was a stranger's dream; she pointed at my feet and shook her head disapprovingly. I humored her and apologized as I put my feet back on the floor. I just sat and watched her from behind the small counter as other people ate their food. I seem to be doing that more and more these days; choosing to concentrate on some trivial, mundane activity instead of going crazy like I used to. It's so much more fascinating for me to watch people going on with their lives and their everyday activities as if I didn't really matter, and didn't really create them. It's fun to play along.
Habiib, I'm guessing that you've been LD'ing for a long time. Like me, you've obviously put a lot of waking time into analyzing the goings-on of your dreams and their patterns. I enjoyed reading your post.

Originally posted by Tjhands
Habiib,

All these sound like WILD's to me. Are they?

I think the way it happens is simply the way the individual EXPECTS it to happen. I like the movie-clip aspect of yours, and would like to train myself to do it that way, but I think that after doing this for so long, I'm locked into my own way.
When I do a WILD, and am, like you stated, in that in-between state, where you can either simply open your eyes and be done with it (what a waste!!) or continue into it and let it develop, I first hear loud, surging, high-pitched rings in my head. When this happens, I've found that I can still move my body in bed (tap a finger, for example), but next I feel a gripping paralysis of all my muscles. As a kid this scared me, but repetition has taken the fear of it away. The next step is where images form. Out of the darkness comes a colorless, motionless, single image.....almost like a reverse or a relief image. Then voices can come in, other images form, motion and color start, and the dream is off and away, with me at the helm!
Last night, instead of flying or doing some other holy-shit-I'm-dreaming!! thing, I chose to stop at a small restaurant at a carnival and watch an old Italian lady make pasta. Since I knew it was my own dream, I put my feet up on the counter, which she didn't like. She didn't know english, and obviously didn't know that this was a stranger's dream; she pointed at my feet and shook her head disapprovingly. I humored her and apologized as I put my feet back on the floor. I just sat and watched her from behind the small counter as other people ate their food. I seem to be doing that more and more these days; choosing to concentrate on some trivial, mundane activity instead of going crazy like I used to. It's so much more fascinating for me to watch people going on with their lives and their everyday activities as if I didn't really matter, and didn't really create them. It's fun to play along.
Habiib, I'm guessing that you've been LD'ing for a long time. Like me, you've obviously put a lot of waking time into analyzing the goings-on of your dreams and their patterns. I enjoyed reading your post.

YES YES YES THATS IT!!!!! It starts off looking like a negative....that describes it perfectly. Its amazing how we both have experienced the paralysis thing since a very young age. I never knew why that happened to me. Sometimes looking through my physical eyes I can see a dream going on and everything in my room at the same time. Maybe I'll try what you said, and just watch things happen in my dream without interacting.

I'm just amazed at how powerful the brain really is. How it can create these worlds that are so real down to the very last detail. Glad you enjoyed it.

Habiib,

That is totally amazing that you have the same phenomenon of seeing a relief or negative image. I wonder if we're all hard wired that way? You know those hand-held gadgets that are made up of thousands of little moveable lengths of silver metal, where you indent your hand or other object into it and then turn it over and you can see the relief of the object? That's just what it looks like when the dreaming starts, except instead of being silver, it's a black image on a darker black background....if that makes sense.

Wow, that sounds so cool that you've opened your eyes enough to see your room AND the dream! When I've tried that in the past, the dream goes away, but when I try to stare at my ceiling, my eyes are still in REM mode and dart all over the place.

Have you ever made up songs or anything artsy in your LD's? That is the stuff that amazes me the most. When I turn on a radio in my dream, and the song starts playing, I'm either awestruck by how perfectly my brain recalls every single note in a song that I've heard before, or less commonly, by how quickly my brain instantly invents a brand new song - one that simply doesn't exist - and how the melody and everything actually sounds good. The lyrics make perfect sense and even rhyme!
That kind of stuff makes me think that we are all soooo much more intelligent, capable, and COMPLEX than we will ever know. I think that whatever mental walls or boundaries of ability and intelligence exist in our waking lives, come tumbling down when we are dreaming. I feel so lucky to be able to lucid dream, and to be able to catch a conscious glimpse of the true power of the mind that's inside me. It floors me. It really does.

I only ever had one lucid dream that was a wild. It was kind of like your 3rd one. I woke up in my room though and the bed flew up and through the wall and I was in a new location where the dream started. It only took about two seconds from the point I opened my eyes untill I was in the new location though.

ya, i do the whole seeing the waking world and dream thing alot...confuses the heck outta me sometimes