Thread: Semi-lucidity.

Okay I have had more Dreams in which I was Semi-Lucid. I don't mean Lucid for about a second and then forgot I was dreaming again; That is shortly Lucid.

No I was Semi-Lucid Tonight and on more nights. And this is what I call Semi Lucid:
You act somewhat Lucid allthough you have not copme to the breakthrough thought of ''I am Dreaming''.
An example of Semi-Lucidity is what I dreamt Last night.

I remember my dream Involved school, Girls of my age (yay I really love girls), My Grandmother, some friend of mine's house, her bedroom in which I laid down at one point. The dream itself is very vaguely remembered. But I remember, with full 100% conviction, that at one point I was trying to do ''something'' in my Dream and it didn't work. And I just thought ''Oh C'mon man, Off COURSE I can do it; This is MY dream afterall'' and then I did it. Can't remember what and where or with who. But I defeniely remember that experience.

It was like My Subconscious Dreaming Mind has adopted a part of my Lucid additude from my Conscious Mind. Sounds good? Sounds like progress to me. My DreamRecall is getting better too. Maybe I should thank the Ginkgo Biloba I've been taking for 2 days now. Well we'll see.

Does anyone else have these ''Semi-Lucid'' Experiences? Like you didn't come to the Conclusion you were Dreaming, yet you acted in a Dream as if you DID know. Changing somethng in a Dream, not being succesfull, thinking ''This is MY dream, of COURSE I can change it'' and then doing so succesully, yet all of this without becomming Lucid. I guess it might indicate that my lucidity has increased again somewhat?

Does anyone where to go from there to furtherly improve my DreamRecall and Lucidity?

I had something close... I woke up in bed knowing I was dreaming... but as I walkd around I didnt do anything abnomal because I was thinking as if I was awake if that makes sence... like I didnt go jump out the window caz Id get into troble.. but I knew it was a dream.. just kinda not awake enough to really accpt it... you know what i mean?

Is that what your talking about?

Maybe im completley out of this world with this sort of theory but...it might be you are dreaming that youre having a lucid dream. In which case things might not work out as planned, and it ends up a pretty normal dream. Im wondering if you need to change up your techniques or even take a break from them and lucid dreaming in general. The only way i can explain it any more is like a tollerance build up ....but then again i could just be crazy........

In any case, good luck and happy dreaming.

I had what I thought was my first one but now am thinking it was like what you described. Because ALL I remember is changing something...or maybe I didn't realize I changed it, but it changed when I 'said' something about it. Anyway, I can't remember if in the dream I knew I was dreaming! Weird, hu?

Also, someone asked me to ask you if you knew this native american stuff I tried for the past few days. It doesn&#39;t make you &#39;high&#39; or anything, it just calms you a bit and is supposedly a lucid dreaming aid. Thanks. <3

Originally Posted by RavenC1357

I had what I thought was my first one but now am thinking it was like what you described. Because ALL I remember is changing something...or maybe I didn&#39;t realize I changed it, but it changed when I &#39;said&#39; something about it. Anyway, I can&#39;t remember if in the dream I knew I was dreaming&#33; Weird, hu?

Also, someone asked me to ask you if you knew this native american stuff I tried for the past few days. It doesn&#39;t make you &#39;high&#39; or anything, it just calms you a bit and is supposedly a lucid dreaming aid. Thanks. <3
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You Probably mean Indian stuff from the Mexican Indian tribes. I think you mean Calea Zacatechichi A.K.A. Calea Dream herb. It gives a minor hight while awake and is supposed to induce vivid/lucid Dreams. Maybe you should Check out my 3 Topics: &#39;&#39;Entada Reedhii:African Dream Beans&#39;&#39;, Wild Vivid Dreamd-Pill&#39;&#39;, and &#39;&#39;Calea Zacatechichi Experiences&#39;&#39; in the Lucid Aids boards if you are interrested in such experiences and herbs.

It seems that my lucidity is slowly returning to me and my Dream Recall and Clearity in Dreams seems to increase day by day. Sometimes my Consciousness seems to increase and then I usually have most Lucid Dreams. Seems like Lucid Dreams are right around the corner. They&#39;re Semi-Lucid Now, but I see that as a Sign of Improvement after having had such a long DrySpell. My Recall and DreamVividness have really increased alot. I also manage quite well to stay Conscious longer before falling asleep unconscious anyway. It lead me to experience very Deep Hypnagogic Pre-Dream States with lots of Visual Hallucinations very Consciously: Conscious enough so I can remember them. I had a very grizzly, hyperreal pre-dream hypnagogic hallucination last night. I saw my friend. He was lying/sitting on my bed and I looked down to im and especially saw his face. But as he slowly turned his face&#39;s right side toward me I saw it was all bloody and bruised and his right eye was all bloodshot and red. Terrible Fear suddenly Struck me like exactly like it would in a bad dream and I quickly snapped out of it thinking: I need need not to fear my own Visual Imagination. I am safe in Bed. I stayed conscious a little longer but then fell unconscious afterall.

But more and more nights I seem to reach this very deep Visual/Emotional hypnagogic pre-dreaming state Consciously. I think I am making progress with WILDing. I just need to be able to stay Conscious a little longer I feel.

Originally Posted by SKA

You Probably mean Indian stuff from the Mexican Indian tribes. I think you mean Calea Zacatechichi A.K.A. Calea Dream herb. It gives a minor hight while awake and is supposed to induce vivid/lucid Dreams. Maybe you should Check out my 3 Topics: &#39;&#39;Entada Reedhii:African Dream Beans&#39;&#39;, Wild Vivid Dreamd-Pill&#39;&#39;, and &#39;&#39;Calea Zacatechichi Experiences&#39;&#39; in the Lucid Aids boards if you are interrested in such experiences and herbs.

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Yea apparently it was the Calea stuff....so I hear from who gave it to me&#33; But actually, I DON&#39;T like expirimenting with that stuff. I liked that it calmed me down but it KILLED my dream recall and clarity, which for me is usually VERY Good. The only thing hindering my clarity is that they are so bizzare and fucked up that I can&#39;t make sence of it often times. But now I can&#39;t remember shit. Also I don&#39;t like drugs so much (sorry to whoever it offends. to many people are dying around me from them, not like i was crazy about them before....anyway I digress) So I&#39;m going to try without it, see if I can get anywhere. I have to get past my own mind to see my own mind. In dreams and reality my mind is being its own worst enemy and I want to overcome that with itself. Anyway, Toda&#33; ^_^

Originally Posted by RavenC1357

Yea apparently it was the Calea stuff....so I hear from who gave it to me&#33; But actually, I DON&#39;T like expirimenting with that stuff. I liked that it calmed me down but it KILLED my dream recall and clarity, which for me is usually VERY Good. The only thing hindering my clarity is that they are so bizzare and fucked up that I can&#39;t make sence of it often times. But now I can&#39;t remember shit. Also I don&#39;t like drugs so much (sorry to whoever it offends. to many people are dying around me from them, not like i was crazy about them before....anyway I digress) So I&#39;m going to try without it, see if I can get anywhere. I have to get past my own mind to see my own mind. In dreams and reality my mind is being its own worst enemy and I want to overcome that with itself. Anyway, Toda&#33; ^_^
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Yeah I tried Calea too. a 10X Extract which is 10 times more potent than just dried Calea herb. At the time I tried it, I had bought 4 grams of the Calea extract, I didn&#39;t notice any changes in My Dream Vividness or Recall. My DreamRecall was Really Bad back then. But now every night I have wilder and vivid, much more memorable dreams evernight. So now that my DreamRecall is better I might try Calea again. Also Other Dreamherbs.

And about drugs; Drugs is such a wide Term. Yeah I&#39;ve seen Good Friends become antipathic Strangers to me because of Drugs like Cocaine and XTC. Really nasty stuff. And I know what I&#39;m talking about cuz I&#39;ve got experience, if only minor, with these too. I notice that these drugs on the long Run Messed up people&#39;s minds. And not for the better.

However these DreamHerbs and other classes of &#39;&#39;Drugs&#39;&#39; such as Psychedelics( Marijuana, Mushrooms, Ayahuasca ) are hardly toxic and should not be put in the same cathegory as Cocaine, Heroin and Speed regarding their Mental, Physical effects and Healthrisks. The only unhealthy thing about smoking a herb is Smoke in your lungs, which speaks for itself I guess. Besides that Mentally and Physically they are close to harmless, or harmless.

I guess It&#39;s never a good idea to &#39;&#39;mess with your Mind&#39;&#39; too hard, too long and too much. But experiments with Dreamherbs sure won&#39;t harm your Body or Mind.

I guess I&#39;ll be giving serveral DreamHerbs a try when my DreamRecall is in top shape again. My DreamRecall is better now. Every night I have very intense, vivid, wonderfull dreams and a better recall in the morning. So If my DreamRecall is Great again I might try Calea and other Dream Enhancing herbs again. I&#39;ve had alot of Smi Lucidity. And the Semi-Lucidity I&#39;ve been having before eventually lead to 1 wonderfull Lucid Dream where I was HIGHLY lucid, overjoyed yet calm like a buddhist monk.

I obviously don&#39;t need anything external to increase my Dream Recall and Dream Vividness, because now that I AM doing it succesfully I haven&#39;t used any herbal Aids. However Calea, like other Dream Enhancing herbs, has a Unique effect on Dreams and I will try it again if my DreamRecall&#39;s good enough again.

I guess Semi-Lucidity is a sign that Consciousness is slowly becomming stronger in Dreams. I have managed to imrpove my Consciousness and Recall dreams much better by pure mental concentrated power of will. And it doesn&#39;t stop here.

I had a dream where I woke up in my bed. I did a reality check in case it was a false awakening (and that reality was a dream)

I could breathe through my nose, so I concluded I was dreaming. But I COULDN"T DO ANYTHING&#33;&#33;&#33; I got frustrated, and lost lucidity shortly after trying to teleport.

The only semi-lucid experience I can remember is when I was pretty young, around the age of eight.

Basically, I knew that something wasn&#39;t possible when I saw it happened, but it never really crossed my mind that I was dreaming.

That would be sem-lucidity I think, unless I read your post wrong.

I kind of have the opposite problem; a lot of times I know I&#39;m dreaming but I have so little control I might as well be awake; I mean I can control myself but nothing else. I feel like I have about as much chance of flying or changing anything as IRL. I never have as much control as I want and usually don&#39;t have much at all.

I get this &#39;semi lucidity&#39; alot lately. I don&#39;t seem as afraid of things that used to terrify me in dreams because i have this underlying sense of it all being fake anyway. It&#39;s like, just verging upon lucidity but not outright realizing I&#39;m dreaming.

I walked through and entire dream scene once in this state. A tornado chased and I wasn&#39;t afraid because I knew it wasn&#39;t real. I knew the city I was walking in wasn&#39;t real. Even that I wasn&#39;t real. I strolled through the dream observing how phoney everything started to look. I get this sensation a couple of times a week.

The last time I felt verging lucidity was the living zombie dream I had. I was being chased by zombie-ish creatures but I wasn&#39;t afraid. Knew they couldn&#39;t harm me. When an atomic bomb like explosion happened we were damned near ground zero but I didn&#39;t care because I knew it couldn&#39;t hurt me. Felt an odd shock wave push through my body after the explosion, that was it.

I had thought about starting a thread simlar to this because verging upon lucidity is beginning to become frustrating... yet occasionally liberating. I don&#39;t feel the little high I get after having a LD but I do feel somewhat more relaxed or content after verging upon lucidity.

Thanks for this, was beginning to wonder if I was the only one experiencing this odd dream state. Makes me wonder if this is an entirely seperate state of dreaming?

I&#39;ve had quite a few semi-lucid experiences.

In one dream I was reading a book and thought "So it is possible to read in a dream".

In a recent dream I was playing hockey, then dream switched and I was thinking, that was a pretty good dream about hockey. But I was still asleep and dreaming.

At a slightly higher level I&#39;ve had dreams where at a certain point I go "this is just a dream" and wake up.

I believe there is a spectrum of lucidity/consciouness/awareness. A lot of experiences at the low end are forgotten or blend into NDs. But they are progress over NDs.

The semi-lucid experience is great to feed into MILD.

I get this some times, in the back of my head I know I&#39;m dreaming but I don&#39;t say it because I know I will wake up.

I had a LD last night. Before I was Lucid I was semi-lucid

Here is the abridged version....

I was at this highschool, was late for class, and slid down the stair rail. I was running to get to my school, but it was like in slow-mo. This reminded me of dreams I had where you can&#39;t run fast. I said "Why don&#39;t I just appear at my school?"

And I did&#33;

When I saw these brand-new lockers I am like "This must be a dream. The lockers at my school are 50 years old&#33;" Reality check not even needed&#33;


Then I did some other stuff, but I don&#39;t want to go off-topic

Cool Topic&#33;
I&#39;ve been concentrating on dreaming for a couple of weeks and am having a great time doing it.
These Semi-lucids happen as soon as I start drifting so I&#39;ve been dieregarding them instead of following them.
Could work?

Same thing happened to me. I had a dream in wich I asked myself the big question :"Am I dreaming?" and did a reality check. It didn&#39;t help though because it felt just like real life. Or mabye I expected it to be that way. Now I realise I should have done more than one RC to trigger lucidity. Also I think it&#39;s best to do several different RC&#39;s during day also to get used to the idea. Waking up in the dream is very difficult, that&#39;s why DILD&#39;s and WILD&#39;s are more succesful.

I had a dream a couple of nights ago where I realized that instead of actually searching to find a room, I could just make the room come to me. A second later the scene whirled around me and there was the room I&#39;d been searching for, sitting right in front of me.

When I wake up and recall dreams like these I&#39;m always left baffled as to why I didn&#39;t realize I was dreaming, especially after the one above, where I shifted a scene so drastically.

I cant figure out why the hell I don&#39;t realize it&#39;s a dream. I know the situation isn&#39;t real but can&#39;t seem to break through and come to the realization of.. HEY&#33; I&#39;m dreaming. On the other hand when I Do realize I&#39;m dreaming in a dream it seems to happen without any distinct clue. I just suddenly go lucid.

Perhaps a change in LD-ing methods is in order? Perhaps focussing on WILDs is making it more difficult to to have DILDs?

I was semi lucid this morning. I woke up and wrote down my dreams then went back to sleep. As i was falling asleep i imagined something and focused as hard as i could, then i started vibrating and heard buzzing and i went paralyzed. I saw a dreamscape open up to me, but i got excited and opened my eyes and lost it.

I have had some dreams lately in wich I know I am dreaming, but I really dont give a damn. I was in bed, and something was bothering me. I told it to go away, and it did. I snuggled down and commented how nice it was to be dreaming, and then (dont ask me how I did this) nodded of in the dream.

Bugger&#33;

Hey everyone one...
Ive had several dreams where i know im dreaming and i acknowledege im dreaming except thats it. eg: the other night i had a dream i crashed my car and i got out and it was perfectly fine and i just said to my self "yep it isnt damaged so i must be dreaming" then i got back in the car and i had no control what so ever... This is probally because i quit my dream journal for a while ehehheehe

Hey, I must have had one of these experiences&#33; It&#39;s a coincidence I found this topic the same day I started mine&#33; Check mine if you want, I believe it might relate to this. It&#39;s called "I&#39;m not sure what just happend". It must have been a semi-lucid.

I was killing people because i knew that it was just a dream, so i knew that i didn´t matter what whould happen with me...

I often know that I´m dreaming, but it´s not lucid dreaming.

Originally Posted by Gabriel

I was killing people because i knew that it was just a dream, so i knew that i didn´t matter what whould happen with me...

I often know that I´m dreaming, but it´s not lucid dreaming.
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If you know you&#39;re dreaming, its a Lucid Dream. Doesn&#39;t matter if you have any control or not