Thread: Trying To Visit Another Dimension

Originally Posted by blade5x

I've been trying this for a while now. I still have yet to reach another dimension. Last night was probably the closest I've come. I told myself in the dream that I was going to go to the fourth spatial dimension, and jumped through a mirror. Everything went black, and I started falling very quickly toward some large yellow thing, like a large curved yellow plane, which also had orange under it (hard to describe). Anyway, the closer I got, the bigger the rush got. It eventually felt like overwhelming amounts of energy was overtaking me (very unpleasant), so I left the dream. I had a second lucid in which I was about to attempt, but instead decide to practice my flying (which is very fun once you get good at it).

Anyone reach any crazy new worlds, other dimension, universes, etc in their lucids? And how did you go about doing so?[/b]

You waste your lucids on stuff like that?

And uhm..it's all in your head..

Few months ago, I exprienced more than 3 spatial dimensions in a non-lucid dream. Is very strage. In this dream I could be rotated in such way I would become mirror image of me (my left would become my right and viceversa). Anyway, it's impossible to describe in words.
This kind of dreams are very hard to remember, because more than 3d is not a common experience (at least while awake). That's why, now, I remember only a vague impression of that dream experience.
I think that, in a LD, it's possible to experience more than 3D. Only requirement would be to find the right "exercise".

Here is an idea. I don't know if it works (I still have the problem of premature-awakening from LDs ), so I cannot test myself for now.
In a LD, move left-right direction (move to left and after this, to right; do this few times). Think that you are moving on the first dimension (X). Now, move forward-backward direction and think that you are moving on the second dimension (Y). Move, up-down direction and think that you are moving on the third dimension (Z). After this, continue the same thing on other dimensions (EXSPECT this happening). So you are moving in a new direction of the "hyperspace", which is not a combination of X/Y/Z movements. Don't think how it might work. Exspect that it will work! A sugestion would be to ask your brain to move you on other dimension (you show to your brain how are X/Y/Z dimensions and ask it to continue to other dimension ).
PS. Think that is an easy thing to do. The difference from 3d space and 4d space is only a new axis.
Paul

Originally Posted by Developer

You waste your lucids on stuff like that?

And uhm..it's all in your head.. [/b]

Yes, trying to experience the impossible is a waste of a lucid dream

After you have 70-80 yourself you start getting bored of the average lucid dreams and search for something new.

Um...the fourth dimension. How should I put this?

2d (x,y) coordinates. Length and width.
3d (x,y,z) coordinates. Length, width, height (or depth)
4d (x,y,z,t) coordinates. Length, width, height (or depth), TIME.

It has been proven that the fourth spatial dimension is most likely time. So if you enter the fourth dimension in a lucid dream...I guess you'll be able to go back and forth in time in your lucid!

Not back in forth in actual time, but like if you want to rewind to the beginning of your dream to remember what someone said, than you could do that.

Just a theory.

Originally Posted by Arachanox

It has been proven that the fourth spatial dimension is most likely time.[/b]

He means a fourth _spatial_ dimension, not time, so:
4d (x,y,z,w) coordinates, with movement/velocity, etc along each axis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_dimension

I've often wondered if it will one day be possible to play 4D games or imagine 4D environments with computer-brain interfaces. Screens/Images/pictures/etc can only really project 3D objects and scenes onto 2D planes, so I think in order to interact in a 4D environment, you'd need to project the 4D scene onto a 3D space. You know how you can see everything in 2D games at once(within the limitation of the size of the screen)? With a hypothetical 3D monitor, you'd be able to see everything in a 3D game at once - something our eyes couldn't handle because you can only see what is closest to you (with the exception of transparencies). Since our eyes can't see everything at once, the interface would need to be tied directly to the brain in some way.

4D puzzle games and FPS games could be really fun to play (assuming our brains have the ability to learn how to think in 4D space in a natural, fluid way)

Wenever I think about four spatial dementions, I feel like I'm gonna blow a fuse in my brain. The best understanding I've got is a tesseract. The real problem with trying to experience 4D is that we have no frame of reference; we have NO IDEA what it might be like, and therefore, our brain has no idea what to project for us. So I don't think that it would be easy to attain in a lucid until you come up with an idea of what you want it to feel like.

Originally Posted by lowerlogic

He means a fourth _spatial_ dimension, not time, so:
4d (x,y,z,w) coordinates, with movement/velocity, etc along each axis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_dimension

I've often wondered if it will one day be possible to play 4D games or imagine 4D environments with computer-brain interfaces. Screens/Images/pictures/etc can only really project 3D objects and scenes onto 2D planes, so I think in order to interact in a 4D environment, you'd need to project the 4D scene onto a 3D space. You know how you can see everything in 2D games at once(within the limitation of the size of the screen)? With a hypothetical 3D monitor, you'd be able to see everything in a 3D game at once - something our eyes couldn't handle because you can only see what is closest to you (with the exception of transparencies). Since our eyes can't see everything at once, the interface would need to be tied directly to the brain in some way.

4D puzzle games and FPS games could be really fun to play (assuming our brains have the ability to learn how to think in 4D space in a natural, fluid way)[/b]

That's what I said. Scientsits have proven that time CAN be a spatial dimension. Whether or not it is the fourth as yet to be seen.

Once I dreamt I was 2D but it was like a year ago.

Originally Posted by blade5x

Yes, trying to experience the impossible is a waste of a lucid dream

After you have 70-80 yourself you start getting bored of the average lucid dreams and search for something new.[/b]

Uhm, saying that lucids are getting borring is like saying life is borring. That is of course, if you have good lucids?

Some time I'm going to have to try going to another dimension by riding over the top floor on a paternoster.

Originally Posted by Developer

Uhm, saying that lucids are getting borring is like saying life is borring. That is of course, if you have good lucids?[/b]

You're right, he was pretty arrogant in his response there, but in his defense, you started it with your " You waste your lucids on stuff like that?" comment. Who are you to decide what's a waste and what's not? It's his dreams, not yours or mine.

A waste?! And what do you guys use your dreams for? Flying around? Well, that's really cool, but it's also cool to explore the "impossible" a little.

This might help you in reaching all 10 dimensions!

Originally Posted by Developer

Uhm, saying that lucids are getting borring is like saying life is borring. That is of course, if you have good lucids?[/b]

Life isn't exactly "exciting" for me... it just "is" - kind of like inbetween exciting and boredom.

I mean honestly, the after 70-80 lucids, unless you are in it for the spiritual aspect which can be a never ending journey, what is there to do? The human mind tends to lose interest in things (or atleast mine does) in repeating things over and over that have no meaning to them at all (like flying over my neighborhood in a lucid dream).

I realize that my non-lucids - as random as they may be - are more interesting than 80% of my lucids. Why? Because many of my non-lucids take place in locations that I have never been before. They involve plots that would be physically impossible or just plain absurd at times. I wake up from a lot of non-lucids thinking to myself "even though that made no sense at all, it was a lot of fun!"

I've come to the realization that I am still much to bound to the physical thought process when I lucid dream. Sure I learned to fly, or walk through objects, but think about it - if you could do that in real life, it would soon very quickly become a "regular activity" like walking to the store (ok maybe not very quickly, but after a while - it would).

People have claimed to have 360 degree vision in dreams - true 360 degree vision, not a panorama, or a quick switching between what is infront and behind you. I can't really imagine what 360 degree vision would be like (how exactly it would look all connected - but I do have some ideas). If peolpe can achieve this, then maybe I could achieve seeing a possibility of 4D spatial (not time) may look like. Seeing every side of a 3D object at once, 3D shadows, and having everything folding in and out of itself as you change view as you move is just a start.

I wasn't trying to be arrogant.

I understand many of you would LOVE to have a lucid dream, especially at the rate I have them. But you also have to understand that it's only human to get bored of something. You might tell me "well you can try something new in your dreams *like [insert new activity here]*" - well I am trying something new right now. If it fails, I'll try something else

Wow, I never even thought of using lucid dreams to explore extra dimensions, but that sounds like a really useful application of a technique that is often used for amusement only.

Your description of a curved yellow plane sounds interesting. It reminds me of a common diagram of a wormhole, where a 2 dimensional representation of the universe is curved through the 3rd dimension. Perhaps if you can find a way to expand this yellow plane into a 3 dimensional space, the curvature will be through the 4th spatial dimension.

Please keep us updated on your progress. This could be very fun to explore if you find a way to accomplish it!

I haven't been able to really give it another shot recently since my sleep cycle is pretty messed up at the moment (thanks to the college life).

I'll definently keep this updated with any progress.

I'll attempt a WILD this morning, since I don't have class until 12PM.

That's on of the reasons I stated lucid dreaming, I've always loved explorin higher levels of consiousness/states/dimensions than my own. I've been meaning to for a long time. Just haven't got around to having a long enough lucid dream. I plan to fly through a black hole or simply smoke DMT, Heh.

I finally got around to lucid dreaming again. School is coming to an end, my sleep cycle is being fixed. Anyway, this morning, I attempted it again.

I began my WILD in complete blackness. Kept telling my subconscious that I needed vision. When I got it, I was standing in my room. I decided to go to outer space this time, and jumped upward was out there within seconds. At first I was above earth, and then all of a sudden I saw galaxies around me. I started to think about worm holes and black holes, and I'm not sure which one I went through, but when I did, I immediatly accelerated forward really quickly. I think I actually started yelling in my bed when I did because it was really, really intense. I saw flashed of light going by, and after about 10 seconds or so it went dead, and I was in complete blackness. I "reset" my dream, and was back in my room shortly after my vision returned, and went back up in outer space. So I'm floating around seeing galaxies (looked pretty damn awesome by the way), and attempting the same thing. This time the rush woke me up and my dream was done.