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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneiro View Post
      iadr? You've just made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up..

      Did you know that this very same technique was published by Carlos Castaneda? He said it was taught to him by a DC..

      .. and that the DC said that it was a way to increase lucidity in LDing?

      Weird stuff man..

      Had you already read about it? Or was it a completely new thing to you?
      Whoa...you just made my hairs stand up Oneiro. No I have not read about it, but on another site where I posted the dream, the moderator told me that it was a technique that is also taught in a Phychic Development book that he had.

      Here is the dream the way I recorded it. Guess I should probably start paying more attention to these dreams and trying these things shouldn't I. It has only been about 3 months since I had the dream.

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      Dream:

      Although this dream was not a lucid dream, it was a very interesting dream where I was being taught something.

      I am sitting in the back seat of a limosine with a successful lawyer who tells me that he contributes his success to a buzz saw that he bought which caused a certain kind of vibration in his head when he used it.

      When I ask him how many years he had to go to school to become a lawyer he avoids my question and continues telling me that the reason for his success is what he learned from the buzz saw.

      He then touches my forehead and shows me how to hold my tongue against the top of mouth when doing a chant to create these kind of vibrations within myself.

      I remember someone else telling me about this same technique earlier in this dream.

      Because this same theme was repeated 3 times, it seems to be something my subconscious mind is trying to show me.
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      BTW Oneiro. I really appreciate all of the information you shared on this subject as I think it explains why some people have so many problems with DC's.

      32 years is a long time to be lucid dreaming, and I value your opinions and your experiences. Thank you for sharing them.

      Your answer to what many DC's want makes perfect sense too, as does your explanation of where a lot of them come from.

      After reading what you said about the origin of a lot of DC's it makes sense that maybe one of the most important times a person should consider protecting themselves from psychic attacks by building a shield of white light around themselves, or by praying, or by whatever other means they believe in, would be right before going to bed.

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      Quote Originally Posted by iadr View Post
      Whoa...you just made my hairs stand up Oneiro. No I have not read about it, but on another site where I posted the dream, the moderator told me that it was a technique that is also taught in a Phychic Development book that he had.

      Here is the dream the way I recorded it. Guess I should probably start paying more attention to these dreams and trying these things shouldn't I. It has only been about 3 months since I had the dream.

      __________________________________________________ _______________
      Dream:

      Although this dream was not a lucid dream, it was a very interesting dream where I was being taught something.

      I am sitting in the back seat of a limosine with a successful lawyer who tells me that he contributes his success to a buzz saw that he bought which caused a certain kind of vibration in his head when he used it.

      When I ask him how many years he had to go to school to become a lawyer he avoids my question and continues telling me that the reason for his success is what he learned from the buzz saw.

      He then touches my forehead and shows me how to hold my tongue against the top of mouth when doing a chant to create these kind of vibrations within myself.

      I remember someone else telling me about this same technique earlier in this dream.

      Because this same theme was repeated 3 times, it seems to be something my subconscious mind is trying to show me.
      This is a little bit crazy, because I've actually read an account before on this site where a DC showed the dreamer this same thing. It was Leo Volont, remember that user? Anyway, I did a quick search and found the account, here it is:
      Quote Originally Posted by Leo Volont View Post
      While my father was alive I did not get along well with him, but as the years since his decease have gone by, my relationship with him in Dreams has been improving. Last night we were sitting at the old dining room table. He was at his customary seat, but I was not at my old seat but, significantly, at the seat ordinarily assigned to the oldest brother – apparently I have been promoted. In the Dream my father tells me that he will show me an exercise for communicating without the use of this small device that was set up close to the window. All I could infer about this machine was that it emitted white light. So my father begins this exercise, and it is quite simple – he takes a deep breath and then hisses out the exhale, and then his entire cranium begins to glow with White Light. So I begin to hiss out my breath and my brain case takes on the same glow of White Light. It was like our brains became filaments for the White Light and I could see our brains glowing.

      Incidentally, I am a High Initiate of Kundalini Yoga and so I know what it feels like to have an open Crown Chakra. And when I awoke, I had an open Crown Chakra. Then, throughout the day, I tried the Exercise a few times. It is easy to do, but there are a few details. It seems that the proper ‘hiss’ involves having the tip of the tongue positioned close to roof of the mouth at that spot that is the best compromise between the forward position which sounds very ‘sssssssssss’ and the position further back which is more purely ‘shshshshshshsh’. Coincidentally, that sound that you would be making is very close to what they call ‘White Noise’.

      It really does seem to open the Crown Chakra.
      Sounds like the same thing, with the exception of the white light. Pretty creepy...

      Anyway, I thought I would contribute my own experience of a meaningful interaction I had with a couple DCs. It's one of the very first lucids I ever had. Here's the excerpt from my dream journal:

      10/26/05
      The dream gets a little hazy, but the next thing I know I'm in my brother's room, which is right by mine, except for some reason his room is rearranged. I'm sitting on the edge of my brother's bed, talking to 2 DC's who are sitting on the other side of the bed, leaning their backs against the wall; a white guy and a white girl, both roughly my age.

      I ask them, "So what's it like to be a dream character? Just a figment of somebody's imagination?" The girl gets kind of offended at this. She gives me a "look" and says, "We're not just 'figments of somebody's imagination.'" They go on to explain how they have a consistent dream world/community set up. Every time that I go to sleep I visit their world, and when I'm awake they still exist, I'm just absent from their world until the next time I dream. The DC's have complex relationships with each other, jargon that I'm not familar with, the works; according to them, it's like a parallel universe. I ask them if it's the same world that everyone goes to when they dream. They don't really understand my question so I rephrase it. "Let's say that I have a dream in which I meet a dream character named Bob. Then let's say that a friend of mine has a dream in which he meets a dream character named Fred. Would Bob be able to meet Fred in the dream world?" They look at each other. "Eh... I don't know about THAT..." they reply. Basically, 'no.' I mention that it must suck that they can never leave the dream world. They say it isn't so bad.

      At one point in our conversation, they are both talking rapidly at the same time, and it's kind of bugging me, so I tell them to stop. They look at me and then keep talking. I know I can control them because they are characters in my dream, so I tell them again, this time more firmly. This time the girl actually says, "No." I concentrate, close my eyes, and them boom, "SILENCE!" They both immediately shut up, but when I open my eyes, the girl is giving me a hell of a nasty look. If looks could kill!
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      Great information DuB. Thanks for passing that along. That was very interesting that someone else had a DC show them a similar technique for meditating. I'll have to give that another try.

      Very interesting conversation you had with your dcs also. Thanks for sharing that.

      I'm still trying to figure out what my dcs are, whether they are actually other dreamers, or some kind of characters in a whole different world, but for the most part they seem to get confused when I ask them what or who they are, like they don't know.

      I do think though that in an encounter that I had earlier where I visited a guy named Bob, that I was in some kind dc communities, because in an apt building where I was floating around in, I saw my parents and brothers all sitting at a table, but they were almost like lifeless dummies with no emotions. So I am thinking that they may have just been their dc counterparts in the dc community.

      Thanks again for such a great reply!

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