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      Sleep Walking

      There are stages of sleep in which we are paralyzed and stages in which we are not, most REM sleep is in a paralytic state, but if a very vivid dream were to occur during non paralytic sleep, could the person physically attempt to act out the dream. I bring this up for two reasons. First of all, there are a few famous legal cases where sleep walking was used as a defense against allegations of a crime. Second, I generally do not enter a paralytic state of sleep due to a sleep disorder, and I was wondering if anyone knows, thinks, or has an opinion on whether or not becoming lucid while in a non paralytic sleep, would allow a person to try to gain control of their physical body while still dreaming. This is like the anti-AP. Using the sleeping brain to control the real body would seem to be the ultimate step in dream control.

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      Good question, I don't know if anyone knows or have tested that out. It sounds like a very difficult thing to do, but maybe not impossible. The lucid dreamer might just have to stay completely still in their dream.

      I hope someone else has a better answer for you.
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      I thought that the point of sleep paralysis was to make it so you dont act out your dreams

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      Well if you have a sleep disorder that interferes with your SP, I believe it could be possible - maybe if you become lucid, just make the dreamscene into your house, and walk around in the dream. Theoretically, your body would do the same thing in waking life.

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      you just reminded me of something that happened to me once.i was having a lucid dream but all it was was getting ready for school.i woke up in my bed and my brother told me i had just been sleepwalking.he proved it by telling me things that i did in my dream .it was so messed up.....is that what you meant.

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      Would you/anyone else be able to share what disorder is being involved? (For my personal knowlege.)

      Also, as many others have said, I wouldn't try anything crazy, especially jumping out of a window, since there are obvious implications caused from that. As for the question you ask, I would assume that it may either randomly work or not, or be influenced by things such as physical fatigue. You could strap yourself to your bed if you wanted to do some more extreme things while lucid.
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      Yeah that was the only solution I could think of too if you wanted to fly or beat people up or anything - strapping yourself down.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Digital.Totem View Post
      There are stages of sleep in which we are paralyzed and stages in which we are not, most REM sleep is in a paralytic state, but if a very vivid dream were to occur during non paralytic sleep, could the person physically attempt to act out the dream. I bring this up for two reasons. First of all, there are a few famous legal cases where sleep walking was used as a defense against allegations of a crime. Second, I generally do not enter a paralytic state of sleep due to a sleep disorder, and I was wondering if anyone knows, thinks, or has an opinion on whether or not becoming lucid while in a non paralytic sleep, would allow a person to try to gain control of their physical body while still dreaming. This is like the anti-AP. Using the sleeping brain to control the real body would seem to be the ultimate step in dream control.
      Interesting notion! I have actually seen this done. Where a person paralysed was moving his eye-balls. So that the people observing him, could get a yes, or no.. By twitching the eye repeatingly to one side, or the other.. (closed eyes of course)

      I often wake up covered in sweat, when having intense dreams, sleeping lightly, not fully paralysed.. I also grind teeth’s sometimes if I get really drunk and sleep really light..

      Sleep paralysis is key in understating other realities.
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      I've sleepwalked plenty of times but there was one interesting one. I was in my bed, asleep and I had a cold, I was young. I saw myself from another angle, get up, talk to my dad and sleep in his bed because I was sick and couldn't sleep. I saw this in the third person point of view ( not in my body ) and I woke up in my dad's bed without realising it until breakfast when he told me what I said to him which coincidently is what I said in my dream...?!?!?!
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      That sounds very cool - I don't know if you were controlling it from your dream or if you were just dreaming about it while it happened or what... sleep can be pretty trippy sometimes.

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