this scared me!

[Lynz]

there has been many times where i think i am awake, its like half sleepparalysis and half lucid dreaming. i know i am in bed, can feel myself lying there unable to move, i cant even open my eyes. only a few times have a opened my eyes but couldnt keep them open. its like im dreaming but my real body is trying to move. And often when i am lying there i sense a presence in the room. sometimes i think it is real and force myself to wake and theres no one there. i feel like its real because i am not dreaming anything its like im just lying there with my eyes shut. not seeing anything just thinking. But if i carry on the presence stays. only a couple of times have i managed to open my eys. but alot of the time i am dreaming i am awake as if everything is normal and i have woken up only once i really wake up do i know its a dream. i think i would realise it was a dream if everything wasnt so normal, just dreaming that i wake up in my bed. one time i could hear screaming from a woman in my room and the presence of a man, but i was paralysed in bed. they were in my bedroom, i thought it was real. i forced my eyes to open and could see a man trying to kill a woman but i know i was dreaming when i knew i fell asleep at the otherside of my bed and should have been looking at the wall. but when i opened my eyes i wasnt. imy eyes forced shut again and forced myself to wake as i couldnt bear the screaming. it was awful. as it was so real, my bedroom as it really is it felt so real. i can fall back into it very easily!

[Scruffy]

I've heard of things like this before, where people are having sleep paralysis, and seeing things that shouldn't be there, often nightmarish, like you described. I think I've heard it referred to as level II sleep paralysis. About all I can tell you is that you aren't the only one who has experiences like this.

[CT]

This is similair like 'old hag',

[Jammy]

I have a friend that have experience this some times to. Not that scary things but voices and feeling of a presence. Its really just something to ignore, since its a creation of the mind, and move on and try to WILD with visualizing or another technique. Maybe try to just stand up and confront the man... "Okey!! THATS ENOUGH... im trying to S L E E P HERE!!... but thanks for remindig me im in a dream" And the man and women will go like "hey no problem... any time" and from there you have made a significant dreamsign

[Tsen]

Yeah, it's definitely some form of sleep paralysis. It's hard to ignore the things you see/hear/feel in this state, but you'll learn to do it. If you're already in sleep paralysis, I'd imagine that going to a WILD would be very easy to do. I couldn't guaruntee it, as it's different for everybody, but try. I always hear people pushing crates around outside my door when I'm trying to WILD...freaky stuff. If you expect the noises/visions/whatever, it most likely won't disturb you as much. Just remember it's all hallucinations!

[Lynz]

oh it wasnt what was happening that scared me as much, cause once i realised it wasnt real i was ok about it, it was the screaming that i didnt like, almost earpiercing, i couldnt bare the screaming. i cant just get up and tell them to shut up cause i cant move, cant speak cant do anything. just lie there, an odd time i have slightly opened my eyes or moved my head but rarely can i move atall. when i first started experiancing lucid dreaming and sleep paralysis it scared me a bit cause i didnt know what it was. but now i have learned more about it and to enjoy it now.

[Arcadia]

i had that about a year ago i was lying on my side and could feel a very strong presence of someone lying next to me and i couldnt move but i forced myself to wake after about 20 or 30 seconds it was quite scary

[Lynz]

ITS weird isnt it, it was the fact that i actually saw the guy murdering the woman in my bedroom, but it was the screaming that i couldnt stand it was ear piercing. A very scarey false awakening i think

[Demerzel]

Heh. See my first post.

[recombinant]

Yeah, sounds like what is referred to as the 'Hag'. This type of occurence borders on a sleep disorder as opposed to an enjoyable experience. I am not sure where the dividing line is for disorder versus a enjoyable thing, but I assume that i lies somewhere in between the amounts of paralyzing hormones that your body produces coupled with your feelings for how much you are in control of the event. Try this read on for size, I found it to be very interesting. http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~acheyne/S_P2.html#hall If you want to read the whole report, use this link http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~acheyne/S_P.html

[sandman016]

Well, your experience sounds quite familiar to myself. As a matter of fact, I have these similar experiences 2-3 times a week. The dreams usually consist of paralysis in the bed...IE you feel pinned down to your bed and you cannot communicate with the person or thing in the dream no matter how hard you try. And as a matter of fact, it seems the harder you try, the further you get from moving or communicating. Also, I am well aware of what is going on, the first couple had confused me, but now im always heads up. ANd like it was mentioned above, I will almost always go in and out of the dream, which will confuse me very much (even still) so sometimes i will not know for sure if I am still experiencing it or im just opening my eyes in the dream. Now here is the main difference of my experience and perhaps what I am really trying to explore by joining this site: Pain. In these dreams, almost always before the lucid dreams begin, a strong, pungent pain sensation will shoot out through my entire body, starting at the eyes and percolating through my whole body. This is when I know it's time for a ride. At this point, if I try sudden movement, I will be punished by a severe sensation which I try to move. This was very discomforting to me at first, but now at this point in time, I really enjoy these experiences. Now I completely take control. I have learned to relax my mind and body and enjoy where these crazy feelings will take me. To digress for a moment, If you learn to do this, you will greatly diminish those nightmarish experiences as well as those confusion-state experiences whereyou are in your bed room unable to move tyring to break out. But as I was saying, as soon as these pungent sensations pervade my body, I relax and bring myself inner warmth. Often the result of this is a very insane experience. I will often start to feel my body lift and subsequently ill be shooting through the air. It often feels the way it does to be on an extremely fast roller coaster but in your head. Sometimes these experiences will not be visual, but you can still relate the feeling of being whipped around feeling like you arent attached to anything. Other times (usually the more intense) I do get the visuals and I am flying all around completely out of control, but at the sametime completely in control. I really could describe to you all in detail for a very long time how these dreams work, but I will now stop rambling. Before I get going I would like to mention a couple more things pertaining to these expereiences. First off, I notice I frequently get them when I sleep out of routine..IE a nap during the day that i usually do not take. Also, for other people that are starting to get these experiences and are experiencing much discomfort with them, remember to relax and try to look at it as a positive experience. When you feel pinned to your bed and feel Mute, dont try screaming it only makes you more tense. Instead relax, and take a deep breathe. If you need to move, it can be done. It took me awhile to get it done, but if you take a deep breath, concentrate on what you want to move, and slowly move the muscle where you want it to go you should start making progress (I usually refrain from doing this because this is when those sharp sensations will really become painful, but if you dont get that have at it!) Okay, that is all for now, and for anybody who actually read this post, please give me feedback if you are familiar with my dreaming condition. I do not know any scientific term for it, I just know that I have finally mastered it. A Merry Repose to All!

[ronso]

Originally posted by Lynz And often when i am lying there i sense a presence in the room. I've heard this before, also that it feels like an evil presence.. Someone wrote (in another forum) that he woke up and couldn't move.. he felt an evil presence and then a black devil walked up and stood on his chest, really creepy.. Someone also wrote that the black devil is some kind of religious thing.. It seems like you get that feeling when you're having sleep paralysis