Major breakthrough with DILD!

**OuroborosEterna** · 10-07-2009 08:48 PM

So, I had an amazing experience last night. I couldn't sleep at all, I kept tossing and turning all night. I had to get up at 8:20 in the morning. Finally, at around 7:00 am I could feel the tension leaving my body, and felt I was relaxed enough to at least get SOME sleep. I slipped into sleep and wound up having fairly vivid dreams. In the dream, I was at a house staying with people I kind of knew, and one of their relatives was a big psycho a-la Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Really big guy, wearing overalls, and very obviously mentally disturbed. He actually had a chainsaw too. Everyone seemed to not really be bothered by him. At first I tried to ignore him, but then he started taunting me, saying how he loved chainsawing into people's heads because it made such pretty holes. Then, he started actually coming after me with the chainsaw. I remember being more pissed off and annoyed then scared, and I managed to wrestle the chainsaw away from him. Then he suddenly had an automatic screwdriver of some kind in that hand, and screwed something into my forehead. It didn't hurt at first, but then suddenly I could feel it throbbing in my skull. This made me really angry, so I killed him with the chainsaw by sawing into his head. He was laughing as I did it, saying he was enjoying it and loving the feel of the chainsaw cutting into his skull. It took a lot to finally kill him, but I remember looking over at a sound system that had an electronic display showing his vitals, and eventually it registered him as dead.

This is where things get really interesting. I can't remember clearly, but I think the pain in my head from the screw he lodged in there caused me to lay down in the dream. I don't know exactly how the transition occurred, but I found myself in a tunnel, mostly black with a circular opening at the end, and movement denoted by specks of color flowing along the walls of the tunnel. I was a little disappointed that it wasn't quite what I had expected from a tunnel; I was hoping for a 3D experience of being inside a vast tunnel with that added sense of space, but instead it was a very narrow and constricted 2D experience, occurring only on a vision screen. In any case, along with moving through the tunnel I remember experiencing something that felt kind of like electricity buzzing harshly around me, worst in my head and especially forehead. It actually gave me a bit of a headache for the first half of the following experience.

I was in this tunnel for around half a minute when I started wondering when I would end up going somewhere, and had the thought that perhaps I needed to choose a destination. There was just the slightest hint of a thought in the direction of a possible destination, and suddenly the opening at the end of the tunnel drew closer and opened up, leading into a scene I knew intuitively was from a world I had created. I was also pretty lucid, I knew that I was in some kind of projection or dreamspace. I was very excited, but as I came out of the tunnel I noticed everything looked like something from World of Warcraft. I wasn't too interested in wandering around that environment, so I took a look around and noticed that there seemed to be a variety of destinations from things I had created. In the dreamspace, I thought it was from a story I had written, but I recognized one of the floating landscapes as something from a particularly fantastical dream I had had years ago (a big floating mountain covered in forests with two large waterfalls source from the same U-shaped lake, with a deep lake beneath it. It was from one of my more epic dreams).

All of the landscapes seemed to be arranged in a circle, sort of like it was a room with model landscapes around the edges. I walked around the path that seemed to run between them all and ended up in a room in a house, with two of the people I do leatherwork with. I started experimenting with dream control by trying to make certain people appear, and had some limited success. Unfortunately, before I could really get into my alarm went off and interrupted me right in the middle of what was going on. I woke up straight from deep within the dreamstate. I have a feeling that this interruption was a big part in aiding recall of the experience, since I was interrupted in the middle of it and didn't have time to have the memories fogged by shallower stages of sleep.

I really wish I had gotten more sleep last night, but this experience has at least made up for the loss.

**Kordan** · 10-07-2009 09:17 PM

Congrats on the Lucid! When we are torn out of sleep right in the middle of a dream cycle, we usually have better recall, so that was probably the reason that you had such vivid memories of the entire thing. The control that you did have with summoning will get better as you practice. And did you say that there was a landscape from a dream you had previously had? Did you create it consiously or did you just "show up"? Again, congratulations!

**OuroborosEterna** · 10-07-2009 09:38 PM

Thanks!

I didn't consciously create the dreamscape I saw. It was already there as I was looking around, and in the LD I didn't know exactly what it was, but after waking I recognized it as a landscape from a prior dream. It was pretty neat!

**Kordan** · 10-07-2009 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by OuroborosEterna

Thanks!

I didn't consciously create the dreamscape I saw. It was already there as I was looking around, and in the LD I didn't know exactly what it was, but after waking I recognized it as a landscape from a prior dream. It was pretty neat!

Sometimes those are better than anything you (or maybe just I) could consiously create! It was a cool dreamscape though. I sometimes have reocurring dreamscapes.

**OuroborosEterna** · 10-07-2009 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by Kordan

Sometimes those are better than anything you (or maybe just I) could consiously create! It was a cool dreamscape though. I sometimes have reocurring dreamscapes.

I totally agree, I haven't tried consciously creating dreamscapes yet, but I'm sure I'd have a hard time coming up with something that compares to what my subconscious does on its own.

**Nicky the nodreamer** · 10-10-2009 03:29 AM

Congrats on the Lucid Dream!

P.S I've always wrote my compositions in school about some of my LD's.

**blackirises** · 10-11-2009 10:07 AM

congrats on the lucid dream.

Originally Posted by Kordan

When we are torn out of sleep right in the middle of a dream cycle, we usually have better recall

I seem to have the opposite effect.

When I wake naturally, I come out of my dreams slowly with little fragments and clues that I can follow to remember the rest. when my alarm goes off, I'm jolted awake and usually have a few moments of slight fear from being shocked by it where my sole concentration is on turning the jarring alarm off as fast as possible, and during those moments I sometimes forget I even remembered my dreams.

**OuroborosEterna** · 10-12-2009 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by blackirises

congrats on the lucid dream.

I seem to have the opposite effect.

When I wake naturally, I come out of my dreams slowly with little fragments and clues that I can follow to remember the rest. when my alarm goes off, I'm jolted awake and usually have a few moments of slight fear from being shocked by it where my sole concentration is on turning the jarring alarm off as fast as possible, and during those moments I sometimes forget I even remembered my dreams.

Thanks!

I can see how that might mess with the dream recall

. For me, when my alarm went off, I heard it first in the dream, and I knew exactly what it was and seemed to almost make a conscious decision to wake up. So it was like jumping between two states of consciousness while still maintaining a continuity of awareness.

**Kordan** · 10-14-2009 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by blackirises

I seem to have the opposite effect.

When I wake naturally, I come out of my dreams slowly with little fragments and clues that I can follow to remember the rest. when my alarm goes off, I'm jolted awake and usually have a few moments of slight fear from being shocked by it where my sole concentration is on turning the jarring alarm off as fast as possible, and during those moments I sometimes forget I even remembered my dreams.

Yeah, I think that we usually have worse recall when we're literally torn (as in abruptly and rudely awakened) out of bed (say by an alarm clock as OuroborosEterna was), than when we simply wake up on our own in the middle of REM Sleep. However, there are some people, such as OuroborosEterna who can remember their dreams well and with clarity despite being jolted out of bed. If we don't concentrate on the startlement/fear of being suddenly awoken, then we will be able to remember our dreams just great. I've been trying to work on this lately and it's helped.

**OuroborosEterna** · 10-14-2009 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Kordan

Yeah, I think that we usually have worse recall when we're literally torn (as in abruptly and rudely awakened) out of bed (say by an alarm clock as OuroborosEterna was), than when we simply wake up on our own in the middle of REM Sleep. However, there are some people, such as OuroborosEterna who can remember their dreams well and with clarity despite being jolted out of bed. If we don't concentrate on the startlement/fear of being suddenly awoken, then we will be able to remember our dreams just great. I've been trying to work on this lately and it's helped.

Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head. I wasn't startled by it this time, so that is probably why I was able to remember it so well. If it had shocked me into waking I'm sure it wouldn't have been as clear.

**Kordan** · 10-14-2009 07:40 PM

Usually alarm clocks are pretty effective at murdering dream recall, but I have been waking up before my alarms go off... (an unseen benefit of my insomnia?)

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