Thread: Ethics

Originally Posted by stormcrow

Is there a strong case for an objective morality?

there's pretty much no objective truth

Or does morality depend on the context of the situation?

it'll always depend the context. I can't think of any ethical question that has exactly one answer, besides "subjectivity exists."

Originally Posted by no-Name

there's pretty much no objective truth

That would be an objective truth. You can't say there is no objective truth because that would be establishing one.

Originally Posted by Laughing Man

That would be an objective truth. You can't say there is no objective truth because that would be establishing one.

s'why I stuck the "pretty much" in there. someone might have a different opinion on the matter of objective truths, so there is still no one truth. it's sneaky, but that's the idea of subjectivity. everyone's got their own shit.

Originally Posted by no-Name

s'why I stuck the "pretty much" in there. someone might have a different opinion on the matter of objective truths, so there is still no one truth. it's sneaky, but that's the idea of subjectivity. everyone's got their own shit.

And yet there are no private languages. Isn't that amazing? And saying that there is no one truth means that there is one truth which is that there is no one. It is a performative contradiction.

Originally Posted by Laughing Man

And yet there are no private languages. Isn't that amazing? And saying that there is no one truth means that there is one truth which is that there is no one. It is a performative contradiction.

but it's just my opinion, man
which makes it correct
to me
and not necessarily to everyone else

I was talking philosophy, while this thread's about ethics.
I was also trying to drive home the point that no one will have the same thought process ever. Everyone perpetually thinks differently, and thus subjectively.

Originally Posted by no-Name

but it's just my opinion, man
which makes it correct
to me
and not necessarily to everyone else

I was talking philosophy, while this thread's about ethics.
I was also trying to drive home the point that no one will have the same thought process ever. Everyone perpetually thinks differently, and thus subjectively.

The fact that there aren't private languages isn't an opinion..it's a fact. It's true regardless of what you think. Logic isn't subjective.

Originally Posted by Laughing Man

The fact that there aren't private languages isn't an opinion..it's a fact. It's true regardless of what you think. Logic isn't subjective.

this is the extreme of subjectivity, but someone that believes there are no private languages and someone believes that there are. it's true for both. universal subjectivity.
I only made those posts to prove a point I was on, that logic can easily be thrown out the window, and that subjectivity is literally in all people.

I made some shitty posts up there not to deny that logic is fantastic, but that some people might not value logic as highly as others. I was trying to force through the idea that nothing applies to everyone.

so any objective truth, or objective law, won't exist. everything is objectively subjective, except when it's not.

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I have no real serious answers to this question. of course you shouldn't take my extremist words to heart. logic is king to me, and anything firmly rooted in it sounds good.