Is the Devil here at DV?

[dreamtamer007]

I have a question If one truly believes that the devil or one of his followers is here at DV and leading others in a direction away from the truth, can we revel whom we think that member is without getting kicked from DV? P.S. It may be worth getting kicked off! Lol

[Universal Mind]

Did somebody make that claim? Sincerely,

[dreamtamer007]

Originally posted by Universal Mind Did somebody make that claim? * Sincerely, * Silly, he is not going to revel himself.

[Alex D]

Even if there was a devil, why would it be at DV?

[dreamtamer007]

Originally posted by Alex D Even if there was a devil, why would it be at DV? . He is going to be were ever people are. Especially when there are life-changing experiences.

[voidofform]

*waves hand* there is no devil here *waves hand*

[dreamtamer007]

Well, you all seem to have the answers, just not to my question.

[Alex D]

Originally posted by dreamtamer007 He is going to be were ever people are. Especially when there are life-changing experiences. The devil, if anything, is a state of mind.

[dreamtamer007]

Originally posted by Alex D The devil, if anything, is a state of mind. . Like I said: you all seem to have the answers, just not to my question

[Alex D]

Originally posted by dreamtamer007 Like I said: you all seem to have the answers, just not to my question Ah, but with the joys of basic thought, we can see my answer to the question. You asked who the devil was among us, which leads us to a problem, the devil is a state of mind, what one person thinks is evil may not be evil to another. So who does that mean the devil is? Simple, it's everyone and no one. It all depends on the your perseption of evil.

[dreamtamer007]

Originally posted by Alex D Ah, but with the joys of basic thought, we can see my answer to the question. You asked who the devil was among us, which leads us to a problem, the devil is a state of mind, what one person thinks is evil may not be evil to another. So who does that mean the devil is? Simple, it's everyone and no one. It all depends on the your perseption of evil. . Are you dense or is it you just can’t read? My question was only one sentence long. Daaa Can we revel whom we THINK that member is without getting kicked from DV? On second thought, I don't want an answer from you

[voidofform]

oh you wanted a straight answer. i think you've got the wrong forum. to answer your question: yes you should "revel" who it is.

[voidofform]

oops, i did it again so you wanted a philosphical discussion on the politics of DV? i would have to say, yes you can "revel" who it is without being kicked off, as long as its not icedawg or one of the moderators, then you may be on shakier ground. since no one will take you seriously. (isn't that obvious by now?)

[CT]

I am the antichrist. (*que death-metal music*)

[Belisarius]

Damn I thought you'd never catch on! I should have known this would happen again. Just please don't call Michael the Archangel on me! I'd be so embarassed if the boys and he found out I was hanging out on a Lucid Dreaming forum! If you tell or ban me, I'll pull a Job on you!

[dreamtamer007]

Goodnight Kids

[Lucius]

If you have a problem with one member or the other, or you find certain things somebody says to be offensive you are free to pm one of the staff so we can look into it. And we will decide if measures against them should be taken.

[Placebo]

Did someone call? Originally posted by Lucius If you have a problem with one member or the other, or you find certain things somebody says to be offensive you are free to pm one of the staff so we can look into it. * And we will decide if measures against them should be taken. Yep. My sentiments exactly. We won't judge harshly for it, and will look into it fairly As for dreamtamer and voidofform - please try to be nice PS : I'm struggling to decide if this thread is really a philosophy question, despite the reference to the devil. I'll leave it here for the moment, unless someone feels strongly about it

[Mystical_Journey]

I think some people on DV need to develop a sense of humour......

[dreamtamer007]

I'm not going to post anymore on the subject. Yes there is someone that I confided in and thought he could help me with lucid dreaming and when I shared personal experiences with him in hopes to get some help he turned everything I shared with him into his own spiritual mission and threw my past in my face to try and shame me, then proclaimed himself to be a Christian and was told by his personal angel that Paul the apostle is the devil and I should go back to my old life stile what consisted of two whole days in jail. Oh I'm so horrible for wanting to expose this lonely self-centered asshole that’s probably leading kids in the wrong direction in life. I take that back, not maybe, shurly. Don't have to worry because I’m not going to respond to or try to help anyone here again. Ps What doesn’t belong in philosophy is a maniac that proclaims that Paul is the Devil and he is on a mission from god.

[Universal Mind]

Is he on the same mission from God as the Blues Brothers, or is he on Rush Limbaugh's?

[Crystalblue]

Is he on the same mission from God as the Blues Brothers, or is he on Rush Limbaugh's? I think he was talking about this fellow under the topic of The Debate on Christianity quote=\"Leo Volont\"] Christ had Prophecized that the Wheat and the Tares would co-exist until the End of Time. And, then, as you say, \"a man of sin will shortly be revealed. Well, that brings us to me. My mission, given to me by the Angel who will be King, is to reveal that 'Man of Sin'. And I have. That man was, IS, Paul. I am now revealing to the World that Paul was the Antichrist who, as Prophecy tells us, came damn close to fooling everybody... 'even the very elect'.[/quote]

[nina]

*cough*dreamtamer and crystalblue have 'similar' IPs*cough*

[Gwendolyn]

dreamtamer, I don't understand.......Does it make me a bad, evil person if I'm not a Christian? Simply because I don't subscribe to your beliefs? Anyway, I don't think it's very nice of you to make intolerant and offensive accsations of people unknown. You should take it outside DV. You'll be heading down "Ban List" road, if you aren't mindful of what you say...

[dreamtamer007]

Originally posted by Gwendolyn dreamtamer, I don't understand.......Does it make me a bad, evil person if I'm not a Christian? Simply because I don't subscribe to your beliefs? Anyway, I don't think it's very nice of you to make intolerant and offensive accsations of people unknown. You should take it outside DV. You'll be heading down \"Ban List\" road, if you aren't mindful of what you say... No I was converted. You all were successful in converting me to non-belief. I don’t believe anymore. You guys were rite. There is no god. It’s all a bunch of bullshit. Thanks guys. NOT