Very interesting topic Howetzer. |
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To put a rather ugly twist (One in which I do not follow but should possibly be considered) |
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Very interesting topic Howetzer. |
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I don't believe you can separate humans and nature in any way at all |
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Man is no starre, but a quick coal
of mortal fire:
Who blows it not, nor doth controll
a faint desire,
Let his own ashes choke his soul
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On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux.
--Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
The temptation to quit will be greatest just before you are about to succeed.
--Chinese Proverb
Raised Jdeadevil
Raised and raised by Eligos
Dream Journal
The Fine Print: Unless otherwise stated, the views expressed are MINE.
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Ok, but how do we know what mother nature intended? What is a truly natural process? I think that there is only a natural order of things as defined by us. It fits in with our idea of being outside nature or in some way divine. |
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Man is no starre, but a quick coal
of mortal fire:
Who blows it not, nor doth controll
a faint desire,
Let his own ashes choke his soul
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Live on the edge , If you don't risk anything, you risk even more.
Darkmatic, I'm with you on the Save the Planet stuff, I really am. I think we should treasure this earth and do everything we can to protect the diversity of life that we have. I don't believe that in the process we should start denying basic human rights to certain classes of people though. |
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Man is no starre, but a quick coal
of mortal fire:
Who blows it not, nor doth controll
a faint desire,
Let his own ashes choke his soul
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Live on the edge , If you don't risk anything, you risk even more.
[quote]Regardless of how creative we are the rain forests the oil reserves the fresh water etc will at some point be in jeopardy. You or I may not see it but how would it play out any other way? |
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On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux.
--Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
The temptation to quit will be greatest just before you are about to succeed.
--Chinese Proverb
Raised Jdeadevil
Raised and raised by Eligos
Dream Journal
The Fine Print: Unless otherwise stated, the views expressed are MINE.
Of course a kettle or a gun aren't naturally occuring phenomena, but how did they come about? They were manufactured. How? By humans. Humans (being natural organisms) are a manifestation of nature and their behaviour is the enactment of nature whether it conforms to the natural progression of things or not. So making guns and kettles is human nature. Is this human nature somehow beyond normal nature because it's not natural? |
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Man is no starre, but a quick coal
of mortal fire:
Who blows it not, nor doth controll
a faint desire,
Let his own ashes choke his soul
I am glad for you that you are under the illusion that everything is regenerating and vast endless supplies of resources will be bountiful for all man kind. |
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Indeed, What is unatural about what we do? How are our manipulations of the enviroment any different than that of ants? We are organisms just like any others are we not? What makes us so special? |
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On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux.
--Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
The temptation to quit will be greatest just before you are about to succeed.
--Chinese Proverb
Raised Jdeadevil
Raised and raised by Eligos
Dream Journal
The Fine Print: Unless otherwise stated, the views expressed are MINE.
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On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux.
--Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
The temptation to quit will be greatest just before you are about to succeed.
--Chinese Proverb
Raised Jdeadevil
Raised and raised by Eligos
Dream Journal
The Fine Print: Unless otherwise stated, the views expressed are MINE.
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On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux.
--Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
The temptation to quit will be greatest just before you are about to succeed.
--Chinese Proverb
Raised Jdeadevil
Raised and raised by Eligos
Dream Journal
The Fine Print: Unless otherwise stated, the views expressed are MINE.
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[quote]I state that we are alone (meaning us humans) in this level of consciousness. |
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On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux.
--Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
The temptation to quit will be greatest just before you are about to succeed.
--Chinese Proverb
Raised Jdeadevil
Raised and raised by Eligos
Dream Journal
The Fine Print: Unless otherwise stated, the views expressed are MINE.
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