Thread: Fear Of Death

Originally Posted by becomingagodo

That has confused me more. Does the bible e.t.c. say their is a hell.
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it says that there is Sheol (often translated as hell), and discribes it as a peacfully sleep with no cares and no worries and no memories. then comes Judgment

there is a Lake Of Fire, but I am still getting to understand what that is

there is a HUGE difference between ChristianDOM and ChristianITY

I was just posting my opinion, im kinda a church goer i guess my whole life, im not saying i agree with you on the fact theres no hell, but im not going to get into a debate about it seeing as i never read the bible.

I just have always been tought its heaven or hell.

Im going to stop reading these religion posts.

If there is no hell, then i still think jesus coming was pointless, and i think people deny it because they are scared of it.

Anyway, thats all of my argument, i shouldnt have gotten involved.

It's not that we're scared of it, for us it just doesn't exist. About Jesus, if he did come, it wasn't pointless, he still gave some good tips to the world, no?

Now that thats over, back to the topic at hand.

I was actually just talking to a friend the other day, and I had no idea how badly some people fear death, wether they believe in an afterlife or not. Some people are terrified of it. I think about death everyday, and always the same thoughts as I have posted here. I have come to the point where I am immune to the fear of death. It was hard for me to understand how it scares some people, how terrified others get.

A few of us were talking on the subject, and sharing our beliefs of death, and when I explained mine I think some weight was lifted off a few people, but others still held that fear. Some didn't know why, they knew it "just was" and they were just scared of it, others feared that because we don't know exactly whats beyond death, we don't know what'll happen. A fear of the unknown. A similar belief was that after death it is all suffering, or we're forced to live in limbo.

For me it was kind of an eye opener because the few people I had talked to about death before had the same beliefs. Its really the first time I've realized how scared of death most people can be.

death awaits us all

Death is dead

Hell is not a firey pit where we burn. I highly doubt a loving God would do that to us.

I mean, we were created in God's image correct? Well, would you ever cast a person you loved into eternal torment, even if they did something shitty to you or against you? No, you wouldn't, but something you could do is "let go", and suffer the pain of losing that person. You also forgive that person over time for what they did. I believe this is what happens to God on a regular basis. Think about what a loving human being would do, and then apply that God, because afterall the Bible specifically stated, we are created in his image (and image does not only apply to how we look).

Hell, is simply the absense of God. It might not seem so bad, but after seeing what you've missed out on, and can ever attain - that would simply downright just suck, forever.

Me, believing in God, I'm still afraid of death. I would be lying to myself if I said I wasn't. It's just the unknown factor.

My closest death-like encounter (which isn't close) is when I passed out giving blood . I felt light headed, there was sudden rush, which maybe lasted a second or two, the outside world quickly faded around me, and then boom everything just went calm. I saw a white tunnel (or white bright light infront of me, maybe my eyes were slightly open). And it was very peaceful for the few seconds I was in this state. I haven't given blood since But the whole transition, honestly, it wasn't really scary at all. Even though I knew what was happening while it was happening.. is almost like you just don't care.

Me, believing in God, I'm still afraid of death. I would be lying to myself if I said I wasn't. It's just the unknown factor.[/b]

A true believer would not be afraid.
Unless there was consequences. Which in revelations it seems it is made clear.
otherwise you are just dirt. That is nothing to fear.



Nice pic becomingagodo
Both pics have a similar feel. Lifeless. Good use of what color is used to get the "feel" across.

I saw a white tunnel (or white bright light infront of me, maybe my eyes were slightly open). And it was very peaceful for the few seconds I was in this state. I haven't given blood since [/b]

Halluciantion caused by a lack of oxygen to the brain. Do you know that the blood services is run by dracula and his horde of teams so he can get a constant supply of blood.
Well the closes i have came to death is laughing to death when i was a child everything just stopped and turned yellow/orange it was like this for about three minautes intill a big glowing light appeared and then everything returned to normal. Ironically speaking i was fully consious and could think perfectly fine however i was stunned. I forgot what i was going to say next.

Both pics have a similar feel. Lifeless.[/b]

Welll Turner wanted to get the point across that death was dead. I dont know what that means however Turner nearly died before he painted this in a dream where he overdosed on very dangerous neurocotics. However the one with death screaming is more that he alive and going to kill you.
Which death do you prefer.

I had a brush with death when I was child also and I never recalled seeing any kind of lights or anything. It just seem like everything got pitch black and this was probably because I was on the verge of blacking out. I always thought that the white light and tunnel was usually like someone getting tunnel vision due to the lack of oxygen to the brain.

Howie... you seem to have taken a darker approach since you've gotten your admin powers. Should we be scared now?

Originally Posted by ExoByte

Howie... you seem to have taken a darker approach since you've gotten your admin powers. Should we be scared now? [/b]

Who? ME ```````

after starting with meditation and the psychic "arts" i have come to be neutral towards death, or maybe even a bit positive since if i die i'll see if there is an afterlife or not. I think life is precious and we should hold on as long as we can, but never live in fear of death, because that would not be living at all. Living is always taking the best out of what you get and being happy.

Originally Posted by anomanderis

after starting with meditation and the psychic "arts" i have come to be neutral towards death, or maybe even a bit positive since if i die i'll see if there is an afterlife or not. I think life is precious and we should hold on as long as we can, but never live in fear of death, because that would not be living at all. Living is always taking the best out of what you get and being happy.
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Will you see or there is an afterlife? I think I will never see there is an afterlife. If there is none, you can't think: 'Oh blimey, there isn't an afterlife'.

I kind of wish there was a semi-afterlife, with a big sign: RELIGION WAS WRONG, YOU ARE JUST DEAD. SORRY.

But that is just my ego talking

Oh, and you should just take the best out of life and be happy. Only if you die, everyone in a way knows they can't be happy anymore. The foresight of not being able to be happy again always pretty much sucks..

Well anyhow, that isn't the point, evolution gave us fear of death. Why would god give Christians a fear of dieing? Saddling up innocent people with another fear, that's mean. Don't say it would be chaos if god didn't make people fear death, god could prevent that from happening. God could prevent all fear, all pain, and people would still be able to function.

Yet he didn't. *Love*.

if there isn't any afterlife, then i won't be around, so no problem there, which leaves only one possibility to discover and that is the existence of life after death

Originally Posted by Koji

Perhaps at a time death scared me. Now, it does not impose fear on me anymore. If I stare it right in the face, I am sure I will be afraid. In a single passing moment though, I am not. Science tells us that it ends there, that there is no afterlife. One would think I would fear such an end, but I am a religious man too, so I suppose I find comfort believing there is something else.

In a philosophical stand point, for those that do not believe in a higher entity, no matter what it might be, it is rather pointless to resist. Many people find hope in religion. Why do they bother though? Death is actually one of the reasons. People fear death, so instead of facing an end to their existence, they believe it perpetuates in some other way. Like I said, it is rather pointless to resist a religious outlook because you either pass on or end. I would rather have hoped that I pass on to another life in some fashion.

I have a different problem though. I fear the afterlife. I am a Christian and from the way people deem heaven, it does not sound wonderful to me. I think the place itself is magnificent sounding, but what about that which I become? I can no longer hate or dislike people, at least from what I can tell. I can no longer sin, or make mistakes as it may be a bad example under God’s dominion. To me, this sounds like I become nothing but a drone in order to expand benevolence in his land. Do not get me wrong, I would rather this than hell or nothing at all. I still wonder though, will I lose who I am, and will that be the same as not existing at all?
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There is no reason to sin in heaven, why would you want to? Give me reasons why sinning is more enjoyable than loving? In heaven, you are in total euphoria of love and there is no pain or anything negative. It must be like a morphine high that lasts for eternity, yet better.


I don't understand why sinning is something you would want to do, and I don't understand why you want to hate people...


On the issue of hell, I do not believe that god decides on sending people their, but they decide on their own. God did not want a hell, and he does not want anyone to suffer. People chose where they go, and God will do all he can to take them into Heaven.


-Rob

I wonder how many people actually fear Death, and how many fear the (probably) inevitable pain of Death?

Originally Posted by Keeper

I wonder how many people actually fear Death, and how many fear the (probably) inevitable pain of Death?
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I don't think death itself is painful, just the time before you body starts shutting down, and your nervous system still works. Death is most defiantly a peacefully release of all the pain in your body.


-Rob

Hmm. Very nice questions by the way. Its very interesting.

Personally, there shouldn't be a fear in Death itself. What I think people fear in it is the sense of insecurity and the quality of the unknown associated with Death. Because we do not, and cannot know what happens after death, we are unsure about what to expect. Humans naturally have fear in what we do not know, and so fear in Death is reasonable.

I, myself, fear death only if I haven't completed what I've sought to do. I want to make change in the world, even if my life has the slightest impact on somebody's and helps them in some way, I'd be content with dying.

As with the sadness that follows death, that shouldn't be happening. As horrible as this sounds, if a loved one of mines died, I wouldn't ever cry. As long as you've done what you were able to do with that person, you should have no regrets. People only cry if there were some things left undone, things that they wish they could have done, but didn't. Live your life as you would your last. That is very true. Do what you want to your hearts content with no regrets. (So long as it does not conflict with the rights and happiness of others&#33

Death is inevitable, we should learn to embrace it, and not fear it.

Life is beautiful. Embrace is beauty, its flaws, and every aspect of it. I think the meaning of life, isn't to die, but its to feel. Feelings make us human. To feel love, pleasure, confusion, hate, anger, even pain makes life worth living. I would much rather feel a minute of joy coupled with years of pain, than to not feel anything at all. Feeling makes you feel human. (No pun intended).

Well, thats all I'll say for now. Provoking thought though my friend, very nice.
DriftingLeaves

I don't fear death; I fear not living.

Live!

Not living is certainly what Death is pertained to be. But here's a question for you, why do you fear to not live?

Well for me, I guess I kind of look forward to experiencing death. I mean you only get to experience that once. Am I ready to die right now? No. Do I have some worries about what will happen after I die and where I will end up? Yes. And for the most part, I believe that's the part that most people fear. That, and the fact that on the other side Eternity is waiting for you. Just seriously thinking about Eternity. It just blows my mind. And who knows what else waits. I guess we will all just have to wait and discover the answers to our questions when the time comes.