Thread: dajavoo

I am not on either side of the fence...or rather, I'm on both sides of the fence. I am absolutely fascinated by quantum theory and all things cosmic, but part of this stems from the fact that I am a very spiritual being...I don't indulge in the grueling mathematics that are required to prove. With that said, I still have yet to decide on deism.
I find that arguing s.c.i.e.n.c.e. vs. "God" vs. "quantum mechanics" vs. Einstein vs. Newton vs. Nostradamus vs. aliens vs. paradox is ultimately moot. Regardless of what disposition you take, it is impossible to deny the fact that for any of anything to take place, somehow the necessary elements were made existent. Even if you favor the "big bang" over "God" one must question how the requisite matter for the "big bang" came to be. Therefore, I'd like to believe that there is a divine entity - but rather, one that's existence is dependent on the perceiver, which is to say that it is an all-being entity that is what you make of It. I think the only real discrepancy is between deism and atheism. I feel that a lot of energy is wasted in arguing between religions. They're simply altered interpretations that are ultimately rooted in the same motif of a higher power - nothing more, nothing less.
Science is proving a lot, but none of what we find transcends the birth of the universe itself; there is no reason science and religion shouldn't be able to co-exist. Unfortunately, both religion and science (so far) refuse to allow this. And to be a follower of nearly any religion would mean not being myself. The limitations are unnecessarily applied.

It is no one's duty to suffer or die for anything. We're blessed enough to be experiencing the blink of an eye that grants life and will take it with it's leave - and I for one have chosen life.

Don't worry so much - just find love and revel in its warmth before you're gone. I know love exists and I put it above everything else.

Oh, and it's déjà vu

Originally posted by PSmolik90
Well, the scientific explanation for it is a bit different. This usually occurs when your body is exhausted (this doesn't mean that you feel tired, it could be a variety of things ranging from malnutrition to sleep deprivation). The delay time from sending an electric impulse from the right lobe of your brain to the left lobe is increased. In that minuet instance your mind thinks it has seen a similar situation, but in all reality your not. You are remembering something from nanoseconds ago, and then believing it to have been from a previous time. Your mind is your own worst enemy.

I don't mean to respawn the heated discussion, but I do have something to say abou the topic. I have heard of this explanation before, and consider it to be true on certain occasions(perhaps thinking you have already seen something when you haven't). But there are other times that it is undeniable that this is not the case. Obviously when peoplel write their dreams down and they later come true, there is hard evidence disproving that.

Yesterday, for example, I had a very long feeling of deja vu. Not only did I feel like I was there before but knew what everyone was going to said 3 lines ahead. It didn't last longer than 30 seconds, but I considered the duration more than enough. I remember being in that exact situation before and therefore am quite certain I must have dreamt it a week or so before it happened.

Just some input...

P.S I counted 2 Incubus references in that post, 3 if you consider the blink part a reference to "Consequence"...Do I get a prize

I'd love to add something about deja vu.

I dont know how to put it.

According to the scientific theory stated above, you are supposed to recall

or remember or see just what you are seeing/doing at the moment. But

it's different for me.

When I experience deja vu, I see/feel some kind of "flashback", but it's

different. Scenery is the same, yet slightly different. There may be different people, action and background story is slightly different, yet it is the same...

very weird...
Anybody has some insights?

When it happen to me its not just one instance but like 5-10 seconds which seems to have happened before. So not only does it feel like I did it before but I know what happens next. Infact I think it might even be longer but whenever I get that feeling I do something different than I remeber doing. So while the first 5 seconds might be exactly the same what I remeber happening next might be different. Which is why I dont buy that theory. If it was just going slow it shouldn't lag by 10 seconds and you shouldn't remeber doing the same event slightly different at the end.

different perspectives, same thing...filler forum garbage

Mine is just an instant, I recognize it as it happens, it might last 4 or 5 seconds at the most.I see and hear everything exactly as it is in real life.

Originally posted by Truthbearer+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Truthbearer)</div>

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Well, the scientific explanation for it is a bit different. This usually occurs when your body is exhausted (this doesn't mean that you feel tired, it could be a variety of things ranging from malnutrition to sleep deprivation). The delay time from sending an electric impulse from the right lobe of your brain to the left lobe is increased. In that minuet instance your mind thinks it has seen a similar situation, but in all reality your not. You are remembering something from nanoseconds ago, and then believing it to have been from a previous time. Your mind is your own worst enemy.

I don't mean to respawn the heated discussion, but I do have something to say abou the topic. I have heard of this explanation before, and consider it to be true on certain occasions(perhaps thinking you have already seen something when you haven't). But there are other times that it is undeniable that this is not the case. Obviously when peoplel write their dreams down and they later come true, there is hard evidence disproving that.

Yesterday, for example, I had a very long feeling of deja vu. Not only did I feel like I was there before but knew what everyone was going to said 3 lines ahead. It didn't last longer than 30 seconds, but I considered the duration more than enough. I remember being in that exact situation before and therefore am quite certain I must have dreamt it a week or so before it happened.

Just some input...

P.S I counted 2 Incubus references in that post, 3 if you consider the blink part a reference to \"Consequence\"...Do I get a prize [/b]

Truthbearer! I award thee a complimentary post...!
You're SO COOL!
*ahem*
Yeah, I actually know what you mean, Truth. Some cases may in fact be the by-the-book definition, but I have experienced cases that clearly are not. And for instance, I shall use a dream I had recently in which I was with a girl that is the most wonderful mate my mind could conjure. All throughout the dream I felt as if things were somehow...right. I don't know, it's difficult to explain, but I knew that girl. I've actually had memories that incorporate her, but were not in the dream. This isn't concrete evidence when it's presented like this...but I assure you, if you could implicate anything, it would be apparent that this wasn't my delaying mind telling me I've experienced this before - the sense of déjà vu that I was experiencing transcends the very nature of the definition...which is that you're experiencing lost time for a brief moment that tells you what you experienced a moment ago is a distant memory that makes the present feel like a repeat. But I wasn't feeling that...I was feeling that the present was the present and that I simply knew this girl from somewhere. Her face, her hair, her ways...all comfortably familiar.

So you see, it's not necessarily just that you feel like you've experienced something before, but that something is familiar about what is happening...be it a face, voice, location, table, food, music, or a happening itself...anything! Thtat's my idea of déjà vu anyway.

while you're in a dream, your subconcious cna conjure up any emotions/feelings...you subconcious can even talk to you through emotions while you dream...have you ever had a dream where you knew the name of a dream character, and their behavioral nature, but what they actually looked like, you dont know? for example, i had a dream where i was in a room by myself talking to a person, however this person had no detail...i could not tell the pitch of voice, whether they were male or female, their height, their hair color/length etc. ...my subconcious simply gave me the emotional feeling for 'person' in that place...it can do this in other things, such as making a person have that emotional familiarity you are talking about...

...im not trying to say i believe one way or another, but try to find someone who has a dream written down in a dream journal, and then later, those exact (or very close) events occur in waking life later on...chances are, nobody has this

Originally posted by &#091;AsS
]PcoK]My theory on dajavoo is that every1 dreams every night, but they dont always remember their dream. So when they see something that reminds them of their dream DAJAVOO. Has ne1 found that being able to remember your dreams has stopped the consistency of dajavoo.Or is my theory way off.

I also think that a déjà vu experiences is caused by earlier experiences in the same life, who was something similar.
So I think déjà vu is a unconsciously memory of a situation earlier in the same life, when he/she have had a diminishing concentration, and therefore not remember the situation completely who it was.