I don't hate bush, but im swedish. i hate you Alric.... |
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Ok I noticed a lot of people really hate the government. And when I say hate I mean really hate. I am not even talking about people who hate say bush, but people who hate everyone. They don't trust them, they think the goverment is out to get them, that they are greedy, that they only think of themself. A lot of the time it seems like there isn't even a real reason for. |
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I don't hate bush, but im swedish. i hate you Alric.... |
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<div align="center">Raised by: O'nus</div>
<div align="center">Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there wondering, fearing, Doubting,
dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before </div>
A lot of us? Huh, I didn't notice that. I don't think its cause we are a bunch of anarchists bent on destroying a governmental institution or anything. |
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All I know is that the priorities are screwed and if we went back to the principles in which governments arose then it would be a much better world. Think about it, why were governments created and in that answer you will find what I mean... |
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If I hadn't made me
I'd be more inclined to bow
Powers that be would have swallowed me up
But that's more than I can allow...
Yeah, the government is an easily manipulated insititution. It's just hard for something this major to be implemented and sustained without fault. Though I'd still have to say the U.S. is in a way better condition government wise then most of the world. |
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I actually think the opposite, and the fact that people believe it so helps/disproves my point. Here's the thing: When you say that it means that either I could be wrong, or that the government is doing its job making you think so... |
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If I hadn't made me
I'd be more inclined to bow
Powers that be would have swallowed me up
But that's more than I can allow...
I don't hate the government. Hell, I work for them. I may not agree with it all the time, but they are the ones in charge and I don't hate them for it. |
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I think its kind of funny how you say we are conquering the world and at the same time that we are straying from our roots. When historically we conqured like half of north america, but we have not done anything like that in a long time, and I think its pretty safe to say we no longer do. |
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Too powerful and controlling. Spreading its the U.S. "culture" to "liberated" countries. American people doing little to stop it. |
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True it is the U.S. manages their resources better. But isn't that a form of governmental regulation? The government doesn't just regulate the country in the form of politics. |
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These are the tears that I dream about...
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“Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are.”
- Kurt Cobain (1967 – 1994)
Some ppl think that bashing government or america or whatever is an "Intelligent" conversation and they demonstrate their wits by doing so... |
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to quote boyd: |
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"i am the crumpled sheets of paper behind an artists' attempt at perfection"
www.myspace.com/mattnocas (more recent pics and info)
Pictures of me here-----> (4 years old now)
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Several issues to address here: |
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If I hadn't made me
I'd be more inclined to bow
Powers that be would have swallowed me up
But that's more than I can allow...
I might be wrong but when governments started by far most where monarchies. Monarchies where not made to help the people in anyway. It was the powerful people who control the land, and used that to then control the people living on the land. There was no voting, it was all by blood line, or you would would take over and kill the old leader. In which case I want nothing to do with a dictatorship type government. So I am kind of unsure of what you are talking about when you say our roots. |
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Think before that. Monarchies are already corrupted forms of government... |
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If I hadn't made me
I'd be more inclined to bow
Powers that be would have swallowed me up
But that's more than I can allow...
The most basic reason for a government is to create laws. Which does not take any leaders at all. The first real leaders became kings and such and made monarchies. Before that you just have a bunch of people who come togather and decide on things. Easy when your live in a town of a 100 people, not so easy when its a town of half a million. |
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Believe me, the first real leaders were not the monarchs... |
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If I hadn't made me
I'd be more inclined to bow
Powers that be would have swallowed me up
But that's more than I can allow...
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The presidents job is not to "enforce laws and protect us with the government" What makes you think it is? It is a lot more complex than that, they basically have to look out for the country and its economy amongst many another tasks... |
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If I hadn't made me
I'd be more inclined to bow
Powers that be would have swallowed me up
But that's more than I can allow...
Basic highschool government class. Government is split into 3 groups. Legislative which is congress take makes laws. Judicial which makes up all the courts. And the executive which is ran by the president whos job is to enforce the laws and protect us. And then they all look after each other to make sure the other ones are not doing things they shouldn't. |
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Well Truth's got a point. In a way they do. They have the power to influence the economy through their vetos and connections, which is what usually happens. (The reason why presidents run on economic platforms and make economic campaign promises) That's the reason why the economic proceedings of a country in many instances completely changes with the election of a new president. Eg. Roosevelt/New Deal. |
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President is the leader of his party, which gives him a ton of influence. So yea he can do other stuff but we are talking about the reason we have a president. And the reason we have one is to protect the country and enforce laws, not to do that other stuff. Which is why its not really his job. |
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