Originally Posted by wendylove
Again thats a american perspective, muslim people think that america is attacking their religion and using 9/11 to justify anything. Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11
this is a statement based on imperfect knowledge. The government has things they can't tell us about the conncetion between 9/11 and iraq, i'm not justifying them keeping secrets but i am saying there certainly are some, however, they could support your point as well as mine, they could prove the war was for oil, or that bin laden was dealing with saddam, either way i believe there is a connection, nobody knows what though. All i do know about the situation in iraq is this: america is not fighting "insurgents" in iraq, they are fighting al queda. This is no FOX news bullshit either, it's right from first hand accounts of soldiers fighting there. There IS a connection, if we're fighting al queda in iraq, you can't possibly say there's no connection. (source: http://forums.somethingawful.com/sho...&pagenumber=12 not sure what page it's on, but there's references to it all over.)
Religion slowing down science is shown in your country like creationism crap trying to be brought into the science classroom.
religion has never slowed down science in schools, only proposed an alternative to it. The hardcore fundamentalists believe science is fake and nothing can convince them otherwise, and the rest of the people listen to reason and learn science, but they realize also that science is not the answer to everything, and until it is, the fundamentalists still have a valid arguement.
And what about war, I thought the reason for war was god told Bush to invade Iraq. Don't get me started on US support of Israeli when they destroyed palestine.
Ok, there's two big problems with this statement. Firstly, the thing about bush invading iraq because god told him to is a bunch of left wing rumors and frankly it's "rubbish" as you would say, not at all true in the least bit, and even if it was, there is no possible proof of it. Secondly, the US supports Israel unconditionally because strategically they are both our only ally in the middle east and politically because they are the only true democracy in the middle east, if we don't support israel, i believe (this is just me, not fact in any way) there would be a second holocaust at the hands of the muslims/Palestinians, because there is just SO MUCH hate towards israel from all sides, we give them defense systems and money and all these things so they can survive. There is a terrorist bombing of israel every freaking day, every freaking day, i don't doubt for a second that muslim countries would jump at the chance to kill every last jew and christian in israel SYSTEMATICALLY if they had the chance, that is what my statement is based off of.
Again it was a accident and your country has had similar stuff went wrong, oh yeah and testing the nuclear bomb. People thought their was a chance nuclear bomb could destroy a lot of people as they didn't know how strong it would be, however they tested it anyway.
Ah, yes, the MAC (massive atmospheric conflagration) arguement, they proved that false before they did the trinity nuclear test, the government documents have recently been declassified.
So stop saying that china some how anti safe
It's not just me that's saying china's "anti-safe", you're saying it too when you make the arguement that "people are expendable", that's the very definition of anti-safe.
again the scientist would have thought their would be a very small chance of this going wrong like how people testing the nuclear bomb would think the same thing.
the difference between us testing the nuclear bomb and china testing their rocket is this (even if you don't believe my previous statement about MAC being disproved): the development of the nuclear bomb was both incredibly necessary and incredibly time urgent, if we had not developed it in time for japan, we would have lost hundreads of thousands of soldiers, and if we had not developed it before the germans did, we would have lost even more civilians and risked loosing the war. My point can be summed up in this analogy: if a patient is dying of cancer, and they are going to die if they don't get surgery, but the surgery has a small chance of killing them, of course they are going to do the surgery. This is just like america's development of the nuclear bomb. China's rocket experiments are like cosmetic surgery where there's no chance of the patient dying currently, but they elect to undergo surgery that has a chance of killing them, or marginally improving the patient's life if they live.
Again their is a project called LCH, now if they turn it on their is a small chance of the world being destroyed. It would be stupid not to do anything as their are risk on anything.
the possibility of the world being destroyed by a micro black hole in the LHC has been disproved by hawking radiation
EDIT: Ok, i can't say "completely disproved" in relation to anything, but that's like saying, "i can't completely disprove the possibility of voldemort destroying the world."
Well, it does not get censored, however it is rubbish... the channel has to get good rating so it ends up being more of a entertainment show, Paris Hilton on the news comes to my mind.
Finally, something i can agree with you completely on. The US news stations have become a bipartisan circus lately on the channels that actually report good news, and the channels that don't report good news report bullshit about Paris hilton and sh1t to get their ratings up. I completely agree with you there.
If I remeber america is actually the one who is in a war now. Iraq is a mess and thousands of troops have died, for nothing or next to nothing as Iraq is in a worse state. See america has alot to learn, starting with do not destroy other countries.
yes, iraq is messed up, yes thousands of troops have died, and perhaps it is even in a worse state than when saddam was in power, however, this is not an "america versus the world" situation. we are fighting an enemy that wants to destroy us just as much as we want to destroy them. We build bridges and firestations and public works projects in iraq for the people, and al quaeda blows them up to spite us, because they believe that "america is the great satan" and anything we do for the people is polluting their minds with our western culture. Iraq is a battleground, nothing more, we have done no more to harm the iraquis than al queda or saddam has done to them, and in fact i believe we are the only one of the three that has actually tried to help them, both as a country and as a people. This is where it ties back to religion, if there was no religion in america, there would not be donation drives to help the iraqui people, there would not be any concept of moral responsibility to help the iraquis after we came in and overthrew their dictator, we would have gone in, got out and left the country in chaos.
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