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    1. 07-25-2004 04:13 AM #1
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      The Placebo Effect

      By the way I put this here because it was "vaugely linked to philosophy", which means this could go here according to the forum description...

      Okay, so tonight I drank a glass of warm chocolate milk, in hopes of it raising my seratonin level (warm milk has seratonin doesn't it?). I also thought it would make me tired. A couple of minutes later, I became more relaxed. This got me thinking if it was just the placebo effect or if it was the chemicals in the drink that changed my state of mind...
      I think the placebo effect works (not really for changing physical things or making things heal faster, but for mental things). If you're a parent and your kid has nightmares, you should do an experiment on him (that sounds evil doesn't it) by giving him a placebo. Tell him/her that it cures his nightmares or anything to that affect, but make SURE that s/he is convinced. Who knows it might work...
      Also, someone here should try the same thing on their friends telling them that a placebo (but don't tell them it's a placebo) will make them have crazy vivid dreams or lucid dreams. If you convince them then there is about a 80 percent chance it will work (actually, if they completely believed it, it would be a 100 percent chance).

      I don't know where I'm going with this, and I swear at one point I was going somewhere at one point, but I guess not...
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    2. 07-25-2004 04:54 AM #2
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      Yes, this works often, outside of medical terms. I have told myself that if I draw a picture of something before I go to bed, I will have extremely vivid or lucid dreams...and it works. However, sometimes saying that it will work has a nasty effect of backfiring and not-working...a subconscious jinx if you will.

      Please don't try it on your children if they have nightmares either. The child's brain is very moldable, and can be shaped easily, for good for bad. Example is telling your child that if he takes an aspirin or a candy before bed will make the nightmares stop, he may get...well addicted. The child's mind will relate that because it works once, and is good, it must be good for every time I don't want a nightmare. I don't know, just some thoughts.

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    3. 07-26-2004 01:26 PM #3
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      I sure do have an impact on people

      Seriously though, yes, they do work. On some more than others however.
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      Unless otherwise stated, views expressed in this post are not necessarily representative of the official Dream Views stance. Hell, it's probably not even representative of me.
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    4. 07-26-2004 02:27 PM #4
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      Since you began to think about the Placebo effect I think it did play a role along with the real medical effects. ----So I would vote both!
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    5. 07-26-2004 06:14 PM #5
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      Originally posted by Joseph_Stalin
      he may get...well addicted. The child's mind will relate that because it works once, and is good, it must be good for every time I don't want a nightmare. I don't know, just some thoughts.
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    6. 08-01-2004 06:13 PM #6
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      Placebos are really effective. There are many types of experiments made. And many of them is feks. about tricking a mind to believe in the consequenses of a "drug".
      Doctor: "Here mr. piana. takes this pill to cure your cancer forever!"
      mr. piana: "Really!"
      Doctor: "Really"
      mr. piana: "mmmm i can feel it.. im cured!"
      Doctor: "yes lets see here... yes you really are..Did i mention it was only sugar you took?"

      So the power of the mind is really nothing to underestimate. To learn to use this consciouss would be a giant leep. Ive heard of other types of test. Where some groups would train a muscel, on group would train some and vizualize some and the third group would only visualize themself training the muscle. Asonishing as it is the third groups had theyr muscle trained almost as much as the second and same as the first.
      This would be caused by the brain stimulating the same neurons for both visualizing and training for real.
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