Thread: The Solution to All of Lifes Problems

Certainly, there are correlations between conciseness and the brain, but there is no evidence whatsoever that consciousness ends when the brain dies. That is an assumption.

Sandform pretty much gave the response I would give you, Xaqaria.

Certainly, there are correlations between conciseness and the brain, but there is no evidence whatsoever that consciousness ends when the brain dies. That is an assumption.

A highly probable assumption.

Originally Posted by Pensive Patrick

Sandform pretty much gave the response I would give you, Xaqaria.


A highly probable assumption.

I third that opinion. (I agree that it is indeed highly probable too.)

Originally Posted by The Enterer

Certainly, there are correlations between conciseness and the brain, but there is no evidence whatsoever that consciousness ends when the brain dies. That is an assumption.

Yeah, it's an assumption based on evidence.

On the other hand the idea that the consciousness continues on after death is an assumption without evidence.

Originally Posted by Omicron

Yeah, it's an assumption based on evidence.

On the other hand the idea that the consciousness continues on after death is an assumption without evidence.

Can you point me to this evidence that consciousness ends at death?
People who have been clinically dead have retained consciousness.
So I think you have it backwards, but you are welcome to your faith based belief.

Originally Posted by The Enterer

Can you point me to this evidence that consciousness ends at death?
People who have been clinically dead have retained consciousness.
So I think you have it backwards, but you are welcome to your faith based belief.

Please define clinically dead...Heart beats stopping does not count as completely dead. "Faith based" yeah. LOL sure. It is totally faith based to believe that something directly related to brain activity alone ends when brain activity is over.

How about loss of all functions of the cortex and brainstorm?

You know, my television's signal is 'directly related' to my television set but i don't believe there are little people living in there.

I reassert it. Faith based with no evidence.

Originally Posted by The Enterer

How about loss of all functions of the cortex and brainstorm?

You know, my television's signal is 'directly related' to my television set but i don't believe there are little people living in there.

I reassert it. Faith based with no evidence.

No actually...

Ok instead of what I was going to say I'm going to make a very simple example.

Check out the limbic system and what a lobotomy is. You are a jerk if you believe in Cartesian dualism.

The brain is a RADIO reciever!!! Ding ding ding. Lolz.

Distinguish between directly related and related ok?

Do you want to discuss this or are you more interested on being an asshole? Clarify, so I’ll know whether to engage or ignore you.

Originally Posted by The Enterer

Can you point me to this evidence that consciousness ends at death?
People who have been clinically dead have retained consciousness.
So I think you have it backwards, but you are welcome to your faith based belief.

They haven't been brain-dead and regained consciousness.

The evidence comes from the evidence that the consciousness is intrinsically linked to the brain. This evidence comes from, for example when someone gets brain damage from a fall, and their whole personality is changed. That would suggest the person's consciousness is dependent on the brain to work. Thats why scientists have identified parts of the brain that serve various functions, and can remove them and edit them to change a persons consciousness. An example here being that one way to treat highly depressed people is in development through brain surgery.

SO if there is evidence that the consciousness is completely dependent on the brain, which there is, then it follows that when the brain stops , so does the consciousness.

Originally Posted by Omicron

They haven't been brain-dead and regained consciousness.

The evidence comes from the evidence that the consciousness is intrinsically linked to the brain. This evidence comes from, for example when someone gets brain damage from a fall, and their whole personality is changed. That would suggest the person's consciousness is dependent on the brain to work. Thats why scientists have identified parts of the brain that serve various functions, and can remove them and edit them to change a persons consciousness. An example here being that one way to treat highly depressed people is in development through brain surgery.

SO if there is evidence that the consciousness is completely dependent on the brain, which there is, then it follows that when the brain stops , so does the consciousness.

There is nothing new in this post that I haven't already refuted. Sorry, but I'm not going to go around in circles with you guys on this.

Originally Posted by The Enterer

There is nothing new in this post that I haven't already refuted. Sorry, but I'm not going to go around in circles with you guys on this.

Actually you've refuted nothing...

You like to make claims without proof.

The fact that the brain is that which consciousness is derived from is no more unproven than the fact that the planet we live on exists.

It is unproven in the same way that you can't prove anything. You're begging the question of what is evidence, in such a way that evidence means nothing to you. You might as well say that birds aren't proven to exist.

What claim without proof did I make?

*Edit* Besides the whole 'your mother smells like a plate of enchiladas' thing. I admit i winged that bit.

Originally Posted by Sandform

The fact that the brain is that which consciousness is derived from is no more unproven than the fact that the planet we live on exists.

That's a huge assumption, especially considering my previous response.