Thread: What r u feelings towards exorcisms?

Originally posted by scorpifly
to be possesed by a devil or demon would mean that the \"spirit\" is stronger than you. now to believe in demons and the likes, then you have to have some religous education and you know that God gave us all power over \"dark forces\" . so is possesion even possible?

It wouldn't mean the spirit is stronger than u. 2 become possessed one TRULY has 2 want 2 become possessed. when that happens u have no control whatsoever over ur body, thoughts, actions, sayings, basically u aren't there inside. For example, the case w/the boy in St. Louis didn't remember anything relating 2 his possession after his soul was finally revived.
The thing w/Satan is, if u give him power 2 own u he's not gonna let u have any say, Satan doesn't give a shit about anyone or anything. haha just remember that kiddies.

Then are Satanists necessarily controlled by the Devil, hmm? I don't really know if it is possible to sell one's soul, in layman deliberate terms. If anything, it's symbolic to when people surrender to evil desires that harm others, is one labelled as sold to the devil. And who's to say that the devil has hold on someone forever? That's what exorcisms are for! So kids, if you see people being mean to you, stick a cross in their face and yell at the demons in them (they'll really think you're yelling at them), and they will become good. Squirt your water bottle at them and declare it as holy water. I dont know, but Christian fanatics who can't relate to people are the best candidates for sociopaths... no, I'm not pointing at anyone here...but people who keep talking about God, and you can tell just by looking at them that they don't know what they're talking about...is really annoying and sad.

Originally posted by AirRick101
Then are Satanists necessarily controlled by the Devil, hmm? I don't really know if it is possible to sell one's soul, in layman deliberate terms. If anything, it's symbolic to when people surrender to evil desires that harm others, is one labelled as sold to the devil. And who's to say that the devil has hold on someone forever? That's what exorcisms are for! So kids, if you see people being mean to you, stick a cross in their face and yell at the demons in them (they'll really think you're yelling at them), and they will become good. Squirt your water bottle at them and declare it as holy water. I dont know, but Christian fanatics who can't relate to people are the best candidates for sociopaths... no, I'm not pointing at anyone here...but people who keep talking about God, and you can tell just by looking at them that they don't know what they're talking about...is really annoying and sad.

WTF r u talking about? i was pting out how Satan doesn't give a fuck about any of us & the "basic" beliefs on exorcisms, may i remind u that it is the Christians who believe in & perform the exorcisms not the "Satanists." I'm not a Roman Catholic, nor do i fully believe in exorcisms, did u not read my quote 2 Tsen on how it is way carried away? u honestly have no idea what i'm talking about in these posts if u think i'm telling children 2 go hold crosses 2 people, i for one dun support crosses. I'm here gathering more information for my project. U should read the posts up above before u try slamming a reply like that in my face buddy.

Originally posted by Girismyleader


I agree w/part of this post. but after doing a lot of research on past cases u'll be surprised on some things that actually happen that can't really be explained. Like that of the St. Louis boy who spoke in ancient Latin even though he had never learned any of it & was far 2 young for anyone 2 understand him...
freaky stuff

... so they say... I also read about a chimpanzee that went to college and wrote term papers. Elvis Presley has been spotted since 1977 in small towns all over the U.S., according to the tabloids. If you read it in a book, then somebody was making money for saying it. I say... follow the money.

Originally posted by Universal Mind

... so they say... I also read about a chimpanzee that went to college and wrote term papers. Elvis Presley has been spotted since 1977 in small towns all over the U.S., according to the tabloids. If you read it in a book, then somebody was making money for saying it. I say... follow the money.

Um well these were copies from the hospital in St. Louis that the boy was @...
I'm not talking about some silly net findings i read on this bud. I reserached this for my major class. I have real info. from the kids doctors, psychiatrists, all that...
Copies from hospitals rn't gonna bull shit u babe, if they do then by all means r world is going 2 hell w/deep lies.

Originally posted by Girismyleader


Um well these were copies from the hospital in St. Louis that the boy was @...
I'm not talking about some silly net findings i read on this bud. I reserached this for my major class. I have real info. from the kids doctors, psychiatrists, all that...
Copies from hospitals rn't gonna bull shit u babe, if they do then by all means r world is going 2 hell w/deep lies.

How do you know they are the real copies? I know you didn't have the originals, so what did you have? Was it a book with supposed copies of the originals? I'm not calling you stupid or a liar. I am calling greedy writers full of B.S. They're all over the place.

Even if it did happen, perhaps the boy had learned some Latin sentences. Maybe he was put up to it, by a, say, full of B.S. writer? If not, then maybe he had psychic powers. Maybe the collective unconscious is a reality. There is a long list of possibilities other than some non-material juvenile delinquent of consciousness screwing up the lives of humans just to be a jerk. I am a million light years from not thinking that such a concept is absurd.

You have an insecure disposition to believe that I was mocking you. Clearly you were waiting for somebody to fire you up. I'm sorry, I was making another one of my crude jokes, to chip off the crusty taboo on the subject.

But please, fucking read my post too. I didn't say that Satanists were the ones performing exorcisms. but I referring to Satanists as the so-called religionists. They are people who believe they are doing the way of Satan, and they turn out to be all right people who aren't all crazy. Satan is just a religiously convenient way to label and characterize anything that's bad to human conscience. But of course, it does not come without a history. There's more traces of fucked up Christians than fucked up Satanists...it's the personal cultivation and interpretation that really matters.

You think you know everything when you question my intelligence yourself, saying that I have no idea what you're talking about. Be careful when you try to speak for others when you don't know them.

Lol.... Satanists may be alright people but deep down they must be idiots for believing Satan is gonna love them... & i never said Christians were great people, i'm not as ignorant as u think i am

If u say so. Likewise, we Christians believe in just as intangible of a promise.

2ndly, Satanists don't take their definition of Satan from the Christian Bible, so that nullifies the attempt to accuse them on their own grounds. You should study it, then I will have less reason to think you are ignorant.

I used 2 be w/a group of Satanists & was one myself bud... I'v wittnessed Satan. & i'm not as ignorant as u think i am. I've been thro more than u actually think. There was a time when those people were all i had as my family, u simply think i'm ignorant & i'm saying random things that i'v learned thro others when i've experienced things myself & grown as an individual. U'd be surprised @ the life i've had 2 live @ my age. so dun go around thinking "i'm wanting someone 2 fire up on", i'm a very defensive person because i have 2 be for past reasons. & simply, i find u as the ignorant one.

Of all the "satanists” I have encountered, there is a very common thread noted in all of their activities, and that is: All of their focus is on the “Worship” of self!

The Rev.

Originally posted by Awaken4e1
Of all the \"satanists” I have encountered, there is a very common thread noted in all of their activities, and that is: All of their focus is on the “Worship” of self!

The Rev.

U r completly right. I never recieved any true help from those people, altho @ the time i thought they were all i had as help

I'm impressed if that's true, especially since we were pretty much deviating from the thread topic.

But, how does being a Satanist and being an "active Christian your whole life" tie together? I hope you are not trying to keep cooking stuff to defend your point. Everybody thinks that they've been through more than others would believe, it's not new. I think you may be exaggerating, but if not, please clarify.

Ok, it's hard to draw the line of what is an exorcism and what isn't. Possession is noted by some Christians even as the simple giving into a diabolical desire. And the freeing of the human soul from the evil spirit bind may as well be considered an "exorcism." An act of God, so be it. The type displayed in the media is very ritualistic, symbolic, and often requires a lot of recurring props, and most likely has no spiritualistic significance at all.

But shit, the movies are probably more scary than the real-life cases reported. Among the myriad of various sentient beings, I wouldn't leave out the possibility of such a possession. It's a very common sense phemonenon, it depends if you choose to characterize it, which is fine as well.

Originally posted by AirRick101
I'm impressed if that's true, especially since we were pretty much deviating from the thread topic.

But, how does being a Satanist and being an \"active Christian your whole life\" tie together?

All i have 2 say about this is that a lot of stuff happened in my past that i'm not 2 proud 2 admit. I have a very closed off past. By all means i actually think i'm starting 2 like u & actually could become friends w/u. if u would like 2 know i would actually tell u...

Hey, maybe later, then.

I haven't been Satanist, and I thought goths often acted very weird (sorry Paperdoll), but I've talked with very unusual people, and one close friend who might be considered the most "Pagan of all." But I've gone through stages of willingly wanting to become evil, because I was so sick of my goody-two-shoe life with my locally refined Christianity, and even screamed prayers of being sent to hell so that I could live my own selfish life (whoa, I guess I'm sharing quite a bit in public!) I have some things in the past I'm not too proud about either.

Anyway, I've had some crazy bouts, and it's sort of why I'm wishy washy on religion a bit, and am not sure where to stand. So I just give reflection. I think we can relate a lot. And, btw, I guess I can be ignorant, I've been called that more than once.

I agree. I think i can relate 2 u. I think we were both being ignorant in trying 2 frame the other for being ignorant... pluss we both enjoyed pissing eachother off w/these posts & making it go longer. i would actually like 2 talk 2 u about a lot'a things now because i think we have a lot in common which is why i think i hated u in the beginning

We should start PM'ing instead, I don't think people are interested in where this is going.

But then again, it's fun to watch threads where people bitch at each other...until tolerance and understanding becomes an element.

Um...you guys do know that the original "Chruch of Satan" was created by Anton LeVay as simply a mockery of the Christian Church? Hence, there is no such thing as "Satanism" or "Satanists"; nobody really believed any of that, they just chanted hyms to Lucifer to piss the Christians off, because the Devil was specifically their god of evil, and that's what LeVay was banking on.

Originally posted by Muhjah
Um...you guys do know that the original \"Chruch of Satan\" was created by Anton LeVay as simply a mockery of the Christian Church? Hence, there is no such thing as \"Satanism\" or \"Satanists\"; nobody really believed any of that, they just chanted hyms to Lucifer to piss the Christians off, because the Devil was specifically their god of evil, and that's what LeVay was banking on.

Yep got that. well not all that special info... but yeah... Pluss Satanists r just weird....

Grimslyleader, please respond to my last post. Thanks.

I don't believe in God (in the sense that "he" is some guy with human personality qualities, especially diagnosable narcissism with a need for constant admiration and severe anger management issues) or Satan. So from a totally outside view, I will say that Satanism is the stupidest religion I have ever heard of. (Anton LeVay started "The Church of Satan," not Satanism. That goes way back.) If you are going to believe in that type of stuff, why side with the idiot that thinks he can take on his infinitely powerful creator? What a dumbass. And who is dumb enough to trust the character who is supposed to be the malicious master of all supernatural con artists? Is it even possible to be more of a sucker than that?

Satanism & THE CHURCH OF SATAN... THAT I DO NOT BELONG 2... WHICH IS CONFUSING ALL OF U! is the damn stupidist religion in history.
i really didn't mean 2 be in that group & i feel purty humiliated in admitting that i was in that group once. but on the pluss side its when i was severly depressed & had no idea what i was doing in the 1st place.
As it goes for God, i can testify that he does exist, i've had way 2 many personal experiences where i've witnessed both God & Satan & i do know they r real people.

The Church of Satan and Satanism are the SAME DAMN THING! So will you two quit talking about that stuff already? Jebus...

Originally posted by Girismyleader
As it goes for God, i can testify that he does exist, i've had way 2 many personal experiences where i've witnessed both God & Satan & i do know they r real people.

What did Satan look like? I know many members of the Devil Clan, but I forget which one Satan is...

What was your experience with G-d, also? There is only one specific experience one can have of the true Almighty, so if yours was not this, then you may have only experienced a lesser deity.

Originally posted by Universal Mind


How do you know they are the real copies? I know you didn't have the originals, so what did you have? Was it a book with supposed copies of the originals? I'm not calling you stupid or a liar. I am calling greedy writers full of B.S. They're all over the place.

Even if it did happen, perhaps the boy had learned some Latin sentences. Maybe he was put up to it, by a, say, full of B.S. writer? If not, then maybe he had psychic powers. Maybe the collective unconscious is a reality. There is a long list of possibilities other than some non-material juvenile delinquent of consciousness screwing up the lives of humans just to be a jerk. I am a million light years from not thinking that such a concept is absurd.

I'm guessing u want me 2 reply 2 this post? sorry it has taken me so long 2 get back 2 the actual topic of this post. This post got way personal for a while & was making my mind go off in space. But just now i did plan on responding 2 this anyways...

Of course they were not the orignals, but they were actual copies. I believe them, because they were not written by an author sorta speak, they weren't written in a by-ist view 2 trick anyone into believing exorcisms, all that was documented was the syptoms of the boy, who treated him & what happened during his stay.
This boy wasn't speaking simple Latin sentences, he was speaking an old Latin language in full use of tounge where it was difficult for many 2 understand & translate. He also appeared very voilent & injured a doctor.
The strangest thing out of all this was before & after these incidents they never found a mentel disorder w/him... nor does this boy have any recollection of memory.
However, i am still in the stage where i am very confused upon possession & exorcisms all 2gether. My father has suppossedly dealt w/a possessed individual & i'm not even sure if i'm going on his words either.... i may soon review this case & conclude differently, as for now i believe that boy in St. Louis was possessed by some sort of evil, altho he is the only true case i believe so far into my studies...

Originally posted by Muhjah
The Church of Satan and Satanism are the SAME DAMN THING! So will you two quit talking about that stuff already? Jebus...


What did Satan look like? I know many members of the Devil Clan, but I forget which one Satan is...

What was your experience with G-d, also? There is only one specific experience one can have of the true Almighty, so if yours was not this, then you may have only experienced a lesser deity.

I NEVER SAW SATAN OMG! pluss i never said "Church of Satan!." & that wasn't the kid i was originally arguing w/anyones... pay attention, jebus on u for trying 2 back lash on things u can't even get straight.

I experienced more of his son Christ than of God himself, it was a very personal experience that happened 2 me before i attempted suicide, i suffer from clinical deppression, which sadly i inherited, only it wouldn't have come thro if i wouldn't have been raped @ the age of 14. After that i became severly depressed, 2 cut things short, i got kicked out of my house & disowned by my family, moved in w/a friend who was a Goth & joined his group of friends that u would call "Satanists" only one worshiped Marilyn Manson... i'm guessing i spelled his first name wrong... more than Satan...
i've tried committing suicide more than once, was a serious cutter, & i do know it was Satan i felt during those times & heard in my head. I am not some nut case who has seen God or Satan tho. if u think i'm crazy u can go ask the hospital, i've been commited 2 an insane asslym because people have thought so & every time i'v checked out clear. I've been checked out for every mentel disorder u can think of & unfortuantly for me i'm a normal sane being, i've been thro a lot of tests after everything i've been thro. & i'm damn well ready 2 testify my truth that i've experienced...
how more personal can it get?