Thread: Only man is fit to be God.

Originally Posted by Deanstar

In the day of the Lord, I want to see what happens to you when you say that to his face....I am waiting for that day very much.

I know this is an older post in the topic, but I've just got to ask. What makes you think God would let you into heaven if you have an attitude like that? You really have that much malice for your fellow man? As being just a man, it is not your job to cast damning judgment on somebody, God will do that when the day comes. As a human, you must treat your neighbors as you would have your neighbors treat you. It isn't your place to be a cocky pretentious asshole according to your religion because you are no better than he is, because we are all born sinners in this world. Perhaps you should learn that now so that if your religion by some stretch of the imagination turns out to be right, you don't wind up in hell. Why do I say this? Because as a human being, despite my agnosticism and the apparent immorality that must surely then entail (lol), I actually agree and do not think it is my place to treat you poorly as a human being. I don't wish eternal damnation upon anyone, even evil individuals. It isn't my place to do so.

Originally Posted by snoop

I know this is an older post in the topic, but I've just got to ask. What makes you think God would let you into heaven if you have an attitude like that? You really have that much malice for your fellow man? As being just a man, it is not your job to cast damning judgment on somebody, God will do that when the day comes. As a human, you must treat your neighbors as you would have your neighbors treat you. It isn't your place to be a cocky pretentious asshole according to your religion because you are no better than he is, because we are all born sinners in this world. Perhaps you should learn that now so that if your religion by some stretch of the imagination turns out to be right, you don't wind up in hell. Why do I say this? Because as a human being, despite my agnosticism and the apparent immorality that must surely then entail (lol), I actually agree and do not think it is my place to treat you poorly as a human being. I don't wish eternal damnation upon anyone, even evil individuals. It isn't my place to do so.

I was speaking collectively in that anyone that does blatantly insult or mock God. I am waiting for the day when he avenge's that type of chornic an serve disbelief. It's not a virtue to not believe in God. The malice and accusations really come from the people who arn't believing. That's the point. You for instance throw a claim at me that I blame others instead of taking responsibility but that's not true. I see myself as having to live up to the standards I believe in. What have you got? You don't have any solid standards that come from any real authority and the only hope you have is in yourself? I don't judge who is going to hell or not, but I am promised certain things that I believe in. One of those things is if I do my best and repent, and believe as I do, that eternal life is a gift of grace.

Originally Posted by Deanstar

I was speaking collectively in that anyone that does blatantly insult or mock God. I am waiting for the day when he avenge's that type of chornic an serve disbelief. It's not a virtue to not believe in God. The malice and accusations really come from the people who arn't believing. That's the point. You for instance throw a claim at me that I blame others instead of taking responsibility but that's not true. I see myself as having to live up to the standards I believe in. What have you got? You don't have any solid standards that come from any real authority and the only hope you have is in yourself? I don't judge who is going to hell or not, but I am promised certain things that I believe in. One of those things is if I do my best and repent, and believe as I do, that eternal life is a gift of grace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFx7...ature=youtu.be

What a game for your God to play!
Create a place for eternal bliss as well as a place for eternal suffering or death.
Then create beings whom he loves dearly and watches over.
And in the end, decide which to consider "trash" and "throw away" into the place for eternal suffering or death and which to cling to and love in the place for eternal bliss.
Even man, with all his faults, is greater and more responsible.

Can you not find a God who has morals?

Regards
DL

Originally Posted by DeviantThinker

Well thanks for clarifying your beliefs. I honestly don't know what to make of them. While I am against them based on epistemological grounds (the truth value is dubious), I have no real moral issue with your beliefs and based on a purely literary context, your critique of the bible hits home. I have always felt the idea of Jesus's arbitrary sacrifice to be morally repugnant.

Anyway, I don't think I have anything of further value to share in this forum. I will be off.

P.S. For a certain Mr Star who will be seething at this point, I say arbitrary since God never needed to send his son to suffer. He could have forgiven the sins of humanity out of his own accord but rather than do so, he allowed Jesus to go through an incredibly painful death and his earthy relatives had to suffer from watching him die slowly too.

No, the fact that this was all for humanity's sake is not an argument. God did not need to do that, he had a choice to freely absolve humanity of it's sins or put his only son through agony and he freely chose the choice that lead to more suffering.

True. And that is scripture. These say or prove your words that God had a better way. Only Christians who love to hate will follow the other thinking and try to profit from the punishment of the innocent instead of the guilty.

They do not care about morals and ethics. As our friend stated, he has a promise and that is all he cares about and would and has sold his soul to Satan to try to get his free ride into heaven.

Don't leave as you are good at making this one say good things for our side.

2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Regards
DL

Originally Posted by snoop

I know this is an older post in the topic, but I've just got to ask. What makes you think God would let you into heaven if you have an attitude like that? You really have that much malice for your fellow man? As being just a man, it is not your job to cast damning judgment on somebody, God will do that when the day comes. As a human, you must treat your neighbors as you would have your neighbors treat you. It isn't your place to be a cocky pretentious asshole according to your religion because you are no better than he is, because we are all born sinners in this world. Perhaps you should learn that now so that if your religion by some stretch of the imagination turns out to be right, you don't wind up in hell. Why do I say this? Because as a human being, despite my agnosticism and the apparent immorality that must surely then entail (lol), I actually agree and do not think it is my place to treat you poorly as a human being. I don't wish eternal damnation upon anyone, even evil individuals. It isn't my place to do so.

Romans 12:21
Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

You are evil to him and instead of following scriptures, he has let himself be overcome by what he sees as evil.

Then again, his God is supposed to follow that good advice as well but he must think hell is good because he plans to send the vast majority of us there.

Even God does not follow scriptures.

Like most Christians and their God, our friend loves to hate. You can see it in his writing.

He is doing our sides work for us.

Regards
DL