Religion and Psychology

**Leo Volont** · 11-11-2005 01:15 AM

Religion and Psychology

Atheism that resides only in the Intellect will ultimately fail because it can sink no deep roots into the wellsprings of Human Psychology. Yes, there has been an informal Philosophical Assumption, since the days of Voltaire and Locke, that humans can be trained by education to be entirely intellectual – to live only in the Head, and then only upon the surface. But looking around, we can conclude that they must have been mistaken, as it just never caught on to any deeper Reality.

But does Religion have a better chance? Well, look at the Psychological Archetypes. Much in our Psychologies – the Archetypes and Dream Motifs – follow along with a Pre-Christian Pagan library of Characters and Symbols, but to a Civilized end no less. Greece, Rome, and Babylon, after all, were Civilizations. It was just one of those many things that made me suspect Paul of being the Antichrist, that he was able to direct Christianity outside the boundaries of Psychological Significance. If Paul’s Doctrine’s were in fact True then why would they not have any Psychological Parallels? In the vast library of Dreams, no dreamer has ever yet dreamed anything that in any way conformed to any Paulist Doctrine or which modeled any Paulist view of the Universe, Material or Spiritual. We need to suspect why the Paulist Vision finds not resonance in Human Psychology, or with the Traditions of Spirituality or Mysticism. Anything that is True should not stand in such stark isolation to everything else. But Falsehood can.

This is one Area where Marian Catholicism was able to undo much of the Pauline Damage. The Blessed Virgin is able to slip in seamlessly into much of our Mythologies and Psychological Archetypical milieus. One reason I find it so reasonable to believe in the Marian Dispensation is that I have had a number of dreams of Mary the Blessed Virgin. One may dispute the importance of Dreams, but one cannot dispute their Psychological Objectivity, considering that people are powerless to control the created the content of their dreams. This is why we call the Subconscious Mind ‘subconscious’, as it is beyond the conscious mind’s abilities to control and manipulate the Messages that come out of it. And we can see that the Marian Motif is as old as Civilization itself. Observe that there really is not much of a difference between Mary the Virgin and Diana the Virgin? The One is B.C. and the other is A.D. But both are upholders of Civilization and Religion.

**irishcream** · 11-12-2005 12:05 AM

So are you saying that all us atheists are merely Catholics in disguise?
Or am i being too simplistic?
Weird, how, i don't consider myself religious, yet i find myself interested in it...
Maybe i am a 'closet' catholic...

**Leo Volont** · 11-12-2005 09:34 AM

Originally posted by irishcream
So are you saying that all us atheists are merely Catholics in disguise?
Or am i being too simplistic?
Weird, how, i don't consider myself religious, yet i find myself interested in it...
Maybe i am a 'closet' catholic...

No.

I was contrasting Atheists with Catholics, hoping by that contrast to draw some Atheists into some appreciation for the Empirical Realities of the Blessed Virgin. Yes, I know that there is not a very fat chance of ever convincing an Atheist that he or she should fairly research the Documentation that validates the Apparitions of the Blessed Virgin, but, still, it was the material for what was a halfway coherent Essay, written as much for the joy of writing an essay, as to actually convince anybody of anything that they would rather not be dragged into recognizing, kicking and screaming the whole time

Or perhaps I should do a re-write of the essay, since it did not seem to present too clearly to you. It was written a while back and published on a Religious Page, and it may have been a bit hurried. I'll have to review it a bit. I may have depended on prior references from previous posts on that Page, with which the people here would be entirely unfamiliar.

Oh, and wait! You're Irish! You must either be Catholic, or have Catholicism in your Blood going all the way back to Saint Patrick of the 6th Century. Indeed, The Blessed Virgin loves no other people on Earth as much as She loves the Irish. In fact there was one unique Apparition of the Blessed Virgin in which She totally dispensed with Her usual style of dress and appeared donning a White Gown heavily trimmed with Green and displaying Shamrocks all about. Indeed, if the Virgin had to choose between being Jewish or being Irish, one hardly knows what She would prefer.

And, you, Irishcream, as naughty as you are from time to time, I know that underneath it all your really are a very good Catholic Girl. On the Day of Judgment, if any Angel should give you trouble, simply tell them that I vouch for you -- that you may have been somewhat remiss in your observations of Catholic Ceremony, but that Leo Volont had done enough for the both of us.

**MarthaM** · 11-17-2005 12:06 AM

Irish Cream,
Are you confusing Paganism with Atheism?

**InTheMoment** · 11-17-2005 12:43 AM

And, you, Irishcream, as naughty as you are from time to time, I know that underneath it all your really are a very good Catholic Girl. On the Day of Judgment, if any Angel should give you trouble, simply tell them that I vouch for you -- that you may have been somewhat remiss in your observations of Catholic Ceremony, but that Leo Volont had done enough for the both of us.[/b]

Holy Hell!! You mean to tell me that Leo has VIP credentials in heaven? And here all along I was hoping to grease ol' St. Peter's palm. I'm dropping your name at the gates Leo!

P.S. - I'm half Irish also.

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