Thread: Scientific Facts of the Bible...

OH MY! THAT'S AWESOME!!!

I might have used "I aint afraid a' no god" - but still - the artwork was also fantastic!!!!

Well, if you were the "godbusters" I might have used "god", but to insert the word "faith" instead here just seemed logical, given the name.

Thank you, thank you...*bows* The song parody is an original work. However, I would feel guitly taking any credit for the pic -- that I found on this site. There are also others on YTMND.com that make use of this image, but I believe this was one of the or possibly THE original.

Yes, it is awesome, isn't it?

That was frickin' awesome! I couldn't stop laughing throughout that entire post. That image is now my new background.

Good show!

Thanks, Mark.

Oh, and count me in too, guys! *gestures to custom title*

LOL...very nice Ramu mu!! That pic is priceless!

Your ingenuity will be rewarded...in bed tonight.

Originally posted by spoon
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The OT is a ~3000 year old religious text, of course it will have scientific errors. It was written by people with no scientific knowledge.

-spoon

Thanks Spoon, already I'm researching!

Originally posted by spoon
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The OT is a ~3000 year old religious text, of course it will have scientific errors. It was written by people with no scientific knowledge.

-spoon

Thank God for that!

Originally posted by Awaken4e1


Thank God for that!

Ignorance is bliss.

Originally posted by Awaken4e1
Thank God for that!

That doesn't look like a written apology...

Originally posted by InTheMoment
Your ingenuity will be rewarded...in bed tonight.

Woo-hoo!

Originally posted by bradybaker
The funniest part of your post is the part where you completely ignore what I wrote.

I'd like to see a written apology to the scientific community. Especially since you're involved in this discussion through the use of a COMPUTER. Study the Bible all you want, I doubt you'll find out how to build one.

So, If I where to reply by mail, and I followed your same 'logic' I would have to apologize to the Post Office? I think that's a bit of a stretch!

P.S. Blaise Pascal is usually credited for building the first digital computer in 1642, he was a mathematician not a scientist.

Originally posted by Awaken4e1+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Awaken4e1)</div>

So, If I where to reply by mail, and I followed your same 'logic' I would have to apologize to the Post Office? I think that's a bit of a stretch!

P.S. Blaise Pascal is usually credited for building the first digital computer in 1642, he was a mathematician not a scientist.[/b]

If you criticized the postal service and accused them of trying to destroy spirituality, and THEN relied on that very service to carry your message, yes you should apologize to them. Or at the very least show a bit of respect.

But that's not what I've been try to get a reply to. This is:

Originally posted by I@
<!--QuoteBegin-The Rev

I have noticed, that those who hold to the belief of ‘no God’ do continue under the premise that the accumulation of knowledge is as complete as it can be, under the present understandings of the scientific community. This brings an entirely xenophobic belief to that cumulative knowledge, of which is only understood within a very limited capacity, i.e. the human mind, but which is assertively presented by the scientific community as the ‘exhaustive completion of that knowledge’ which is used to attained to formation of their belief in ‘no God’.

This is a total dismissal of every substantial procedural law of research ever established. They have deduced their scientific conjecture, to fit their own intolerant belief that no knowledge is greater than man himself. And, that man is the ‘be all end all’ of any given attained understanding, that he is the origin of it. And until the admission of faulty research practices by those who try to disprove the existence of God, there will be no true understanding of ‘Science in its truest sense. Because the scientific community fails to concede their deceptive practices they will not be taken seriously by those who understand that all knowledge come from a much higher source than man’s own mind, from God himself.

The Rev.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Quit putting words in our mouth buddy. No atheist here has ever claimed that we have everything figured out, or that 'our accumulation of knowledge is as complete as it can be\".

In fact, I've conceded numerous times that God could exist. It's just as likely as the invisible pink unicorn theory. Hell, there could be a '67 Mustang orbiting Jupiter right now, how the fuck would I know?

Furthermore, 99.999999% of science has NOTHING to do with religion. You don't see Stephen Hawking running around trying to disprove the existence of God, he just happens to like black holes. So who exactly are you pointing your finger at? The 0.000001% out there who actually believe they can prove wrong an argument that has been specifically tailored to be unfalsifiable?

As atheists, we simply draw on established science and logic (ie. physics, chemistry, biology, mathematics and psychology, which were not developed with the purpose of attacking religion) and apply the same principles to the topic of discussion in hopes revealing to you the silliness of your ways. History has shown that the number one weapon against faith is education, call us The Faithbusters.

What we (and by 'we' I mean the group of atheists involved in discussion with theists about the existence of God) are claiming is that the chances of God existing are so infinitesimally minute that belief is wholly unjustified, regardless of what you think has been revealed to you or what has been taught to you since you were a young lad in the priest's bed...err, I mean service?

Now, you are free to disagree, but don't go around spewing conspiracy theories about the evils of science (it's been a few hundred years since that's worked for the church).

Originally posted by bradybaker

You don't see Stephen Hawking running around trying to disprove the existence of God, he just happens to like black holes.

Sorry, Stephen Hawking can't 'run around' and do anything...

Originally posted by Awaken4e1
Sorry, Stephen Hawking can't 'run around' and do anything...

Making fun of paralysis...classy. (The post I want you to read is above your most recent one).

Originally posted by bradybaker

I have read it, and the context of my post is not conducive to your response. So, to further a response under the context of your response is not conducive of a response.

Originally posted by Awaken4e1


I have read it, and the context of my post is not contusive to your response. So, to further a response under the context of your response is not contusive of a response.

Please stop trying to use words that you have no idea of the meaning of...

"contusive" isn't even a word, and yet it's used twice in your post.

Stick to small, single-syllable words, please. You at least have some hope of randomly stringing those together.

Originally posted by kimpossible


Please stop trying to use words that you have no idea of the meaning of...

\"contusive\" isn't even a word, and yet it's used twice in your post.

Stick to small, single-syllable words, please. You at least have some hope of randomly stringing those together.

Great testing abilities, or is that abilitys...any way good job teach!

ok faithbusters!!!- where is your yahoo group? I've got mine.

Originally posted by Genjyo


Thanks Spoon, already I'm researching!

(The rainbow is not as old as rain and sunshine)-

Gen 9:13 I do set5414 (853) my bow7198 in the cloud,6051 and it shall be1961 for a token226 of a covenant1285 between996 me and the earth.776

(The world's language didn't evolve but appeared suddenly)-

Gen 11:5 And the LORD3068 came down3381 to see7200 (853) the city5892 and the tower,4026 which834 the children1121 of men120 built.1129
Gen 11:6 And the LORD3068 said,559 Behold,2005 the people5971 is one,259 and they have all3605 one259 language;8193 and this2088 they begin2490 to do:6213 and now6258 nothing3808, 3605 will be restrained1219 from4480 them, which834 they have imagined2161 to do.6213
Gen 11:7 Go to,3051 let us go down,3381 and there8033 confound1101 their language,8193 that834 they may not3808 understand8085 one376 another's7453 speech.8193
Gen 11:8 So the LORD3068 scattered them abroad6327, (853) from thence4480, 8033 upon5921 the face6440 of all3605 the earth:776 and they left off2308 to build1129 the city.5892
Gen 11:9 Therefore5921, 3651 is the name8034 of it called7121 Babel;894 because3588 the LORD3068 did there8033 confound1101 the language8193 of all3605 the earth:776 and from thence4480, 8033 did the LORD3068 scatter them abroad6327 upon5921 the face6440 of all3605 the earth.776

(A mustard seed is the smallest of all seeds and grows into the greatest of all shrubs)-

Mat 13:31 Another243 parable3850 put he forth3908 unto them,846 saying,3004 The3588 kingdom932 of heaven3772 is2076 like to3664 a grain2748 of mustard seed,4615 which3739 a man444 took,2983 and2532 sowed4687 in1722 his846 field:68
Mat 13:32 Which3739 indeed3303 is2076 the least3398 of all3956 seeds:4690 but1161 when3752 it is grown,837 it is2076 the greatest3187 among herbs,3001 and2532 becometh1096 a tree,1186 so that5620 the3588 birds4071 of the3588 air3772 come2064 and2532 lodge2681 in1722 the3588 branches2798 thereof.846

(Camels don't divide the hoof)-

Lev 11:4 Nevertheless389 (853) these2088 shall ye not3808 eat398 of them that chew4480, 5927 the cud,1625 or of them that divide4480, 6536 the hoof:6541 as (853) the camel,1581 because3588 he1931 cheweth5927 the cud,1625 but divideth6536 not369 the hoof;6541 he1931 is unclean2931 unto you.

(Conies chew the cud)-

Lev 11:5 And the coney,8227 because3588 he1931 cheweth5927 the cud,1625 but divideth6536 not3808 the hoof;6541 he1931 is unclean2931 unto you.

(Hares chew the cud)-

Deu 11:6 And what834 he did6213 unto Dathan1885 and Abiram,48 the sons1121 of Eliab,446 the son1121 of Reuben:7205 how834 the earth776 opened6475 (853) her mouth,6310 and swallowed them up,1104 and their households,1004 and their tents,168 and all3605 the substance3351 that834 was in their possession,7272 in the midst7130 of all3605 Israel:3478

(The bat is a bird)–

Lev 11:19 And the stork,2624 the heron601 after her kind,4327 and the lapwing,1744 and the bat.5847

(Some fowls are four-footed)-

Lev 11:20 All3605 fowls5775 that creep,8318 going1980 upon5921 all four,702 shall be an abomination8263 unto you.

(Some creeping insects have four legs.)-

Lev 11:21 Yet389 (853) these2088 may ye eat398 of every4480, 3605 flying5775 creeping thing8318 that goeth1980 upon5921 all four,702 which834 have legs3767 above4480, 4605 their feet,7272 to leap5425 withal2004 upon5921 the earth;776
Lev 11:22 Even (853) these428 of4480 them ye may eat;398 (853) the locust697 after his kind,4327 and the bald locust5556 after his kind,4327 and the beetle2728 after his kind,4327 and the grasshopper2284 after his kind.4327
Lev 11:23 But all3605 other flying5775 creeping things,8318 which834 have four702 feet,7272 shall be an abomination8263 unto you.

(A hare does not divide the hoof)-

Deu 14:7 Nevertheless389 (853) these2088 ye shall not3808 eat398 of them that chew4480, 5927 the cud,1625 or of them that divide4480, 6536 the cloven8156 hoof;6541 as (853) the camel,1581 and the hare,768 and the coney:8227 for3588 they1992 chew5927 the cud,1625 but divide6536 not3808 the hoof;6541 therefore they1992 are unclean2931 unto you.

(The bat is a bird)-

Deu 14:11Of all3605 clean2889 birds6833 ye shall eat.398


(Turtles have voices-)

Son 2:12 The flowers5339 appear7200 on the earth;776 the time6256 of the singing2158 of birds is come,5060 and the voice6963 of the turtle8449 is heard8085 in our land;776

(The earth rest on pillars)-

1Sa 2:8 He raiseth up6965 the poor1800 out of the dust,4480, 6083 and lifteth up7311 the beggar34 from the dunghill,4480, 830 to set3427 them among5973 princes,5081 and to make them inherit5157 the throne3678 of glory:3519 for3588 the pillars4690 of the earth776 are the LORD's,3068 and he hath set7896 the world8398 upon5921 them.



(The earth won't be moved)-

1Ch 16:30 Fear2342 before4480, 6440 him, all3605 the earth:776 the world8398 also637 shall be stable,3559 that it be not1077 moved.4131


(The earth has ends or edges)-

Job 37:3 He directeth3474 it under8478 the whole3605 heaven,8064 and his lightning216 unto5921 the ends3671 of the earth.776

(The earth has four corners)-

Isa 11:12 And he shall set up5375 an ensign5251 for the nations,1471 and shall assemble622 the outcasts5080 of Israel,3478 and gather together6908 the dispersed5310 of Judah3063 from the four4480, 702 corners3671 of the earth.776

(A fetus can understand speech)-

Luk 1:44 For,1063 lo,2400 as soon as5613 the3588 voice5456 of thy4675 salutation783 sounded1096 in1519 mine3450 ears,3775 the3588 babe1025 leaped4640 in1722 my3450 womb2836 for1722 joy.20

(The earth has four corners)-

Rev 7:1 And2532 after3326 these things5023 I saw1492 four5064 angels32 standing2476 on1909 the3588 four5064 corners1137 of the3588 earth,1093 holding2902 the3588 four5064 winds417 of the3588 earth,1093 that2443 the wind417 should not3361 blow4154 on1909 the3588 earth,1093 nor3383 on1909 the3588 sea,2281 nor3383 on1909 any3956 tree.1186

(The earth was formed out of and by means of water)-

2Pe 3:5 For1063 this5124 they846 willingly2309 are ignorant of,2990 that3754 by the3588 word3056 of God2316 the heavens3772 were2258 of old,1597 and2532 the earth1093 standing4921 out of1537 the water5204 and2532 in1223 the water:5204

Now are these really as it is said of them, or is some one just manipulating them to fit their notions?

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The Rev.

Originally posted by Nirvana Starseed
ok faithbusters!!!- where is your yahoo group? I've got mine.

It's right here.

Faithbusters HQ

Nirvana

The part about what you said on Keysters that intrigued me about this place was the presence of the group called Faithbusters. If the link provided by Rakken turns out to be an active site, I desire to follow you there and assist you. I leave it up to you to contact me if their site becomes active, and you decide to enter there, and you wish my assitance. I will only go if you lead.

Woody.

Originally posted by Rev

Now are these really as it is said of them, or is some one just manipulating them to fit their notions?

[/b]

It's certainly more believable than the junk you posted at the beginning, Awaken. If anybody is guilty of manipulation of text, it's you.

Originally posted by Tsen


It's certainly more believable than the junk you posted at the beginning, Awaken. If anybody is guilty of manipulation of text, it's you.

How so?

Originally posted by Nirvana Starseed
ok faithbusters!!!- where is your yahoo group? I've got mine.

That's soooo cheesy.

In 24hrs faithbusters.com will be visible to the world - and have a full-fledged forum on it.

We've even offered our first admin position, if she'll accept.