Thread: Chronicles of Barbarism… Narnia

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Originally posted by kimpossible
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Oh, so you want to be gratuitously provocative, and why? Oh, so I will respond in kind so that you can once again go crying to Moderation about how mean I am to you.

But anyway, let me point it out to you that you are the one who starts these rude interchanges, so that you will no longer continue to mistakenly think of yourself as a nice person, or even as a socially acceptable person. Perhaps you are just fit for living in a trash dump on the edge of town... a sleazy town.

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Oh shut up Leo, you're reading way too far into this. The only slightly religios symbolism I found when I read it (though I wasn't really looking) was Aslan, the all see, all knowing, all loved leader. (God anyone?)

Also, withough meaning to sound rude, in all your posts you come across as a very bitter old man. Was your atack of the English really founded, or did you just feel like a rant?

Leo you always make me laugh. I can say that much.

What I really hate about Narnia are the kids. Damned powerful kids.

Kids with powers so great they're on the level of magic.

Damned empowered kids! Put them back in schools where they belong!

Originally posted by Alex D
Oh shut up Leo, you're reading way too far into this. The only slightly religios symbolism I found when I read it (though I wasn't really looking) was Aslan, the all see, all knowing, all loved leader. (God anyone?)

Also, withough meaning to sound rude, in all your posts you come across as a very bitter old man. Was your atack of the English really founded, or did you just feel like a rant?

Maybe if you were to read a book or two, get some education, and find some intelligent friends to make you feel guilty for being so shallow, then maybe you would be able to appreciate, no, to understand, even on an elementary level, what I am trying to say. But without any education, or perspective to measure me by, why not admit to yourself that you should simply walk away from what you have not the least inkling of.

Originally posted by Ex Nine
What I really hate about Narnia are the kids. Damned powerful kids.

Kids with powers so great they're on the level of magic.

Damned empowered kids! Put them back in schools where they belong!

It was so startling out of keeping with just how Barbarism works. What Barbarian in his right mind would allow some Kids to take over the Camp. Barbarism inevitably falls to the the most powerful and ruthless villian who can kill his way to the top of the Heap. Attila was no child. Genghis was no child. Stalin certainly was no child. Hitler, well Hitler was a child (all the simplicity of a child), but with the millions of German Marks that the publication of "Mein Kampf" put behind him, funding the Nazi Party and the Gestapo at levels that even the National Budget could never match, he was well assured of his place. You see, to be a successful Barbarian, other Barbarians have to obey your orders. That requires a good mixture of both Fear and Reward. But a child cannot pay, and a child cannot punish -- no reward, no fear, and so there would never be any obedience.

Originally posted by Nirvana Starseed
Leo you always make me laugh. I can say that much.

Oh good, my life has not been a waste.

Leo why do you always need to point out how smart you are and how dumb everyone else is? Pretty childish for someone always complaining about how childish everyone else is.

Originally posted by Leo Volont+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Leo Volont)</div>

]Chronicles of Barbarism… Narnia

Only the British, and their American Colonialists, could seriously see C.S. Lewis as a ‘Christian’ writer. I can’t say I’ve read him… he frankly bored the hell out of me when I was a child and I could never get through the first chapter of anything he ever wrote, but I wondered what all of the fuss was about and went to see “Chronicles of Narnia”.[/b]

You would see that he was a Christian if you bothered to read even one book he wrote.

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Maybe if you were to read a book or two, get some education, and find some intelligent friends to make you feel guilty for being so shallow, then maybe you would be able to appreciate, no, to understand, even on an elementary level, what I am trying to say. But without any education, or perspective to measure me by, why not admit to yourself that you should simply walk away from what you have not the least inkling of.

I doubt that you know him in real life. I also doubt that you know much more about him than you can find in his profile on this forum. Don't say such things about people you don't know.

Anyone here who disagrees with Leo V. and his ways should take a stroll over to the
"Brady and Leo" thread and check out what he said about atheists there. I may be war mongering here but I don't care at all . You reap what you sow Leo.

Look, I don't know what's wrong with you guys, but Conan O'Brien is not starring in the Chronicles of Narnia.

Originally posted by R.Carter
Anyone here who disagrees with Leo V. and his ways should take a stroll over to the
\"Brady and Leo\" thread and check out what he said about atheists there. I may be war mongering here but I don't care at all . You reap what you sow Leo.

Oh, and when have Atheists become the friends of Mankind. Look at the History of the 20th Century. Have not all of those destructive and murderous Wars and Revolutions come to us from Atheists of various stripe? Indeed, to hate Atheism and Atheists is not only sensible, but a practical defense measure, since it seems that Atheism will not rest until it has murdered us all. If I could snap my fingers and have you all keel over dead this very second...

Snap snap snap.

classic <:D

Don't have a stroke , Leo. My comments are in reference to your
statements on the "Brady & Leo" thread.

Usually I ignore any of your exhausting posts for sanity sake. I chose to
respond this time in the interest of calling a cynic a cynic.
You rally against attacks on your faith, yet persecute others for theirs.
Logical debate is one thing, wishing death upon people for their
ideologies is fucking sad, man.

Originally posted by Leo Volont
Oh, and when have Atheists become the friends of Mankind. Look at the History of the 20th Century. Have not all of those destructive and murderous Wars and Revolutions come to us from Atheists of various stripe? Indeed, to hate Atheism and Atheists is not only sensible, but a practical defense measure, since it seems that Atheism will not rest until it has murdered us all. If I could snap my fingers and have you all keel over dead this very second...

Snap snap snap.

I'd just like to issue a polite reminder that more people have died in the name of God than for any other cause in the history of humanity.

Originally posted by Leo Volont
Oh, and when have Atheists become the friends of Mankind. Look at the History of the 20th Century. Have not all of those destructive and murderous Wars and Revolutions come to us from Atheists of various stripe?

Didn't you blame World War II on the Jews in another thread? Doesn't that make your ideas contradictory?

If I could snap my fingers and have you all keel over dead this very second...

Snap snap snap.[/b]

No hard feelings, right?

Leo, how about "The wizard of Oz"? you can practically point out some of the very points you are doing with this movie. I haven't seen the chronichles of narnia and I can hardly remember the book(I think it was the second one). The thing is that if people don't see the "bad" or "good" sub-messages then the problem wouldn't be much in the movie but in the person, just let it be, there are thousends of movies you could point to every error about, but on the other side, there are good movies to promote, I for one would choose promoting .

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Whoahoho, I think I got into a mess here, dumb me I had only read the first post , Leo man the only thing I could say is that if you are an Idealits then you are pretty contradictory, you talk bad about barbarism and or imperialism or whatever and then go and say something like if you could kill all atheist, I think you are loosing it in rage man, take a deep breath, smoke a cigaret if you smoke or something that'll calm you down, if you want to make a point about something bad for you, don't take on those who don't follow ya, like my mom always use to say "treat others how you want to be treated", or like Jesus in that case "show them your other cheek" or something like that(not that I don't know, but I'm spanic so I can't traslate quotes to the perfection).

Leo, those were communist dictators.

Atheism has nothing to do with it. Catholic dictators have killed just as many, just as if they were from any other religion. Yes, including atheism.

Of course, atheism doesn't free a person from being a total asshole. Unfortunately, neither does Catholicism. No religion makes a person smart, either.

Originally posted by bradybaker

I'd just like to issue a polite reminder that more people have died in the name of God than for any other cause in the history of humanity.

That is such bullcrap.

Just tally it up. Attila the Hun -- Atheist Barbarian. Genghis Kha (who committed almost a total gencide on the once great Persian Civilization) -- Atheist Barbarian. Timerlane emulated Genghis in his own bloodbath -- another killing spree in old Persia and the massacre of Delhi. The Catholic Civilization knew of a few capital crimes, but with the Wars of the Protestant Rebellion, in fact conducted by an Atheist and Predatory Nobility, had a wide slaughter of Catholics in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, the Heugonot Protestants in France slaughtered on a wide scale in every territory of their control, the German Protestant Princes, in fact Atheists, depopulated entire regions as they destroyed to a man complete provinces of Catholic peasantry. The Revolutions continued. The French Revolution was largely anticlerical, and its victims in the Reigns of Terror were largely Catholic. When we get to the 20th Century we have the Greatest Slaughters perhaps in History (though Genghis Khans slaughter in Persia may have been numerically comparable) -- the Russian annihilation of the peasants in Ukraine and Belaruse (20 million or more). The Chinese Revoltution and then the Cultural Revoltuion. The Cambodian bloodbaths.

So it simply is no where near the truth to say that Religion has killed even the tiniest fraction of the people that Barbarian Atheism and Materialism has murdered.

It is simply recycled propaganda from the French Revolution, something that Voltaire or Diderot had said, from the depth of their ill informed lies, which nobody on their side has had any interest in correcting. One has to be very uneducated and stupid to repeat such a lie with the hope of being believed, except by somebody just as stupid.

Originally posted by Ex Nine
Leo, those were communist dictators.

Atheism has nothing to do with it. Catholic dictators have killed just as many, just as if they were from any other religion. Yes, including atheism. Of course, atheism doesn't free a person from being a total asshole.

Well, who is the most studied and determined of all Atheists but a Communist? Indeed, one cannot be a Communist while one still advances any religious belief. Marxism is almost strictly materialistic.

Now, it is wonderful that they believe in a structure of humanitarian ideals, but they always run aground upon the logical impossibility of justifying morality or charity. They start out wanting to share, but their materialism gives them no argument for maintaining any of their good impulses. Their Leadership soon suffers from the inability to justify any principle or ideal which require spiritual or at least aesthetic justifications, which materialism finds impossible to express.

Originally posted by Sortilegio
Leo, how about \"The wizard of Oz\"? you can practically point out some of the very points you are doing with this movie. I haven't seen the chronichles of narnia and I can hardly remember the book(I think it was the second one). The thing is that if people don't see the \"bad\" or \"good\" sub-messages then the problem wouldn't be much in the movie but in the person, just let it be, there are thousends of movies you could point to every error about, but on the other side, there are good movies to promote, I for one would choose promoting .

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Whoahoho, I think I got into a mess here, dumb me I had only read the first post , Leo man the only thing I could say is that if you are an Idealits then you are pretty contradictory, you talk bad about barbarism and or imperialism or whatever and then go and say something like if you could kill all atheist, I think you are loosing it in rage man, take a deep breath, smoke a cigaret if you smoke or something that'll calm you down, if you want to make a point about something bad for you, don't take on those who don't follow ya, like my mom always use to say \"treat others how you want to be treated\", or like Jesus in that case \"show them your other cheek\" or something like that(not that I don't know, but I'm spanic so I can't traslate quotes to the perfection).

Well, no, the Wizard of Oz had a female Hero and a Good Witch. But Narnia is a clear attack of the British Lion devouring the Blessed Virgin of the Catholics. C.S. Lewis was a Mason who wrote Narnia from specifications handed to him.

Originally posted by Leo Volont
Well, who is the most studied and determined of all Atheists but a Communist? Indeed, one cannot be a Communist while one still advances any religious belief. Marxism is almost strictly materialistic.

This is very strange... weren't you advocating communist principles before? Or are you simply "anti-capitalist?"