Thread: The Primer Set By The Holy Spirit

Originally posted by Nirvana Starseed
Your idea of me is a low one indeed. Through right desire and discernment will you know me.

You know, you are only half developed if you cannot speak.

Vivekannada could speak.

Aurobindo could speak.

even Ramakrishna could tell pointed stories and make everybody laugh.

But all we get from you is hints of your greatness. But greatness at what? ... if you can't even talk. You need to stop hiding behind philosophies that glorify effective stupidity and come out prove your worth. You need not come out and comment upon everything, but if you are the least bit culturally aware, then there are a good many Posts which you could reflect upon. If you have the Faculty of True Discernment, then there should be no subject with which you are somewhat acquainted of which you could not add some cogent thought or observation. But if you were just pretending to be wise and talented, but were actually not, well, that would be clear also. You notice that I am not afraid to show myself. and on many assorted topics. Perhaps the difference between us is that I do not feel I am risking anything, but that you have your precious delusional reputation to protect.

Originally posted by Eric Estrada
A) There is no \"instinct\" to protect my intellectual status quo, rather, I've read enough of your posts to understand the gist of all the other ones. It's basically all the same religious bullshit, and pretty much anyone can back me up on that one. Trust me, if I were to be converted to Christianity, it would not happen by someone quoting the bible/god/there own religious faith to me.

B) It was a joke. Don't overanalyze it.

You haven't noticed that I am clever and amusing a great deal of the time?

So for you to skip my Posts IS a form of self-protection and denial. Who does not wish to be entertained? For you to avoid that can only indicate that you fear is alive.... or maybe that once the words grow to a certain length you have too much trouble making them out to have any enjoyment with them... yes, that must be it.

Originally posted by leo
You notice that I am not afraid to show myself. and on many assorted topics. Perhaps the difference between us is that I do not feel I am risking anything, but that you have your precious delusional reputation to protect.

I know you may have better english than me. The difference is I am recently watching my use of words very carefully. Not because I am scared of my reputation being ruined. I have none to start with. I concern myself with channeling the highest I know through the use of speech to the best of my ability rather than what other people such as yourself believe about me.

Originally posted by Nirvana Starseed


I know you may have better english than me. The difference is I am recently watching my use of words very carefully. Not because I am scared of my reputation being ruined. I have none to start with. I concern myself with channeling the highest I know through the use of speech to the best of my ability rather than what other people such as yourself believe about me.

Other people 'such as myself'. So insulting other people is what you consider "channelling the highest".

You are insecure, hostile and not very good with words. But then, I suppose that is why you feel the necessity for 'channelling', that is, to completely remove yourself from the process. Such is the theory, anyway. However, when you suspend your persona in the hopes that a new dissociative personality will be any better, it really is something of the roll of the dice. You may end in channelling some obnoxious personality worse than the one you had started with.

A better tact might be to read the finest literature to get a sense for what good narrative is; to read up on the humanities and expand your education, to practice your writing so that it no longer quite so embarrasses you, and then learn how not to be rude to your elders. If you fix your shortcomings, then you might have only to express yourself, instead of needing to resort to channelling, where you wish to turn yourself over to some Entity that had once taken the time to do the Homework that you shun to do now.

Originally posted by Leo
Other people 'such as myself'. So insulting other people is what you consider \"channelling the highest\". *

You are insecure, hostile and not very good with words. But then, I suppose that is why you feel the necessity for 'channelling', that is, to completely remove yourself from the process. Such is the theory, anyway. However, when you suspend your persona in the hopes that a new dissociative personality will be any better, it really is something of the roll of the dice. You may end in channelling some obnoxious personality worse than the one you had started with. *

A better tact might be to read the finest literature to get a sense for what good narrative is; to read up on the humanities and expand your education, to practice your writing so that it no longer quite so embarrasses you, and then learn how not to be rude to your elders. If you fix your shortcomings, then you might have only to express yourself, instead of needing to resort to channelling, where you wish to turn yourself over to some Entity that had once taken the time to do the Homework that you shun to do now.

I am not trying to turn myself over to an entity so I don't have to do any work. I never mentioned this and it is not what I meant by channeling the highest I know. Neither am I going to end up with an obnoxious personality from a roll of the dice. I don't know how you get these ideas about me. But I do know that no matter how good your english gets, it's going to be useless if it lacks a sense of wisdom and understanding.

I am reading some very good literature at the moment. And education is always useful, but not if you approach it the wrong way. The important thing is to start from the main foundation and build up from there.

My relative perfection won't happen over night. But it will happen. Rome wasn't built in a day ya know.

Originally posted by Leo Volont
Indeed, a Protestant's 'worship' is only so much affrontery and disrespect. *God recoils from it.

Leo, your words here are an affront to me. For one to point the finger of judgement at another worshipper of God and say that his worship is an abomination to God, well, that's only between him and God.

Did not The Christ say that if ye are not One ye are not mine? Your words here not consistant with that plea, I think.

While it is encouraged that one suggest to another a better way, to put yourself between a man and his God and speak for God is the only affront that I'm sure of to God (using the understanding that no two beings want a third to bud in their private business). God's a big boy and I'm sure he'll let the guy know if he's doing something monumentally wrong.

I think Catholics are rather ungrateful to the Protestants for what they have done for the Catholics. All of the Reformers were originally the most devout of Catholics who found that necessary changes could not be effected from within, and chose to do it from without. When they did this, the Catholic Church realized that it had to respond to these things, as they had competition of the hearts, minds and souls of the people.

The Catholic Church of today would not be a shadow of what it is without this evolving influence being exerted from the outside by the Protestants.

That Catholicism may be a better, more authoritative, brand of religion I care not to judge this, but a faith is made up of the people who practice it. In the stagnation of a single state church, this allowed power-mongers and zealots to rise to the top and corrupt the Catholic ideal, a high ideal, but one failing in its practice because of bad people.

Leo, you can acheive the purposes of your religion without pointing the finger of scorn at those that do not beleive as you do. If you beleive that a Protestant will go to Hell for worshipping the way that he does, the better way is to convince him, love him, not to point the finger of judgement at him. If you do this, you put yourself in the position of God, and I am no expert at Catholic doctrine, but I beleive that this would be inconsistant with the Catholic point of view on the subject