Thread: God

Originally posted by spirits_awakened
Who here beleves in him? just woundering if u dont im not putting u down in anyway at all.

I do

I do!

Originally posted by spirits_awakened
Who here beleves in him? just woundering if u dont im not putting u down in anyway at all.

I do

"Him"

If you are using a gendar classification simply from the constraints of language, the way the French have almost randomly assigned gendar terms to everything, almost deliberately confuse their language to no useful purpose, then it can be understood that you would refer to God as a "Him". But if we were to use a logically accurate language, then we would probably chose a gender-neutral term for God.

Sanskrit Philosophy, which as thought about Divinity the longest and in the greatest detail refer to God in gender neutral terms, that is, until they admit of Duality and then they offer both Male and Female aspects and provinces of God.

And, yes, while we can show instances of the Supernatural and occurances of Divine Providentialism, then we must decide that effectively there is a God, or a Collective of Spirits that are able to establish what amounts to a Divine Agency. If there is not a God Person, then there is a God Corporation. Indeed, do we need to ask about God, or only about a Divine Heaven full of Angels who do the work of a God.

Good stuff Leo.

Yes, its the constraints of language that force me personally to have to use the pronoun "him". Its the lesser of two evils. On one hand, the usage of "it" is rather improper because though it conveys a neutrality of gender, its hard to get excited about an inanimate object (makes God sound like a computer, hard to love a computer).

It is my understanding of the mysteries that Sanat Kumara, the God of this world, is the composite of a male and female consciousness. Their polarities cancel out, and their closest of unions similar in idea to how protons will combine with electrons to form a neutral atom.

Seems everybody is correct. Hindus have portions, or keys, to the nature of God. The Buddhists have their part. The Christian part is interesting in that it excentuates the Love aspect, like the love of a child to a Father, something that is passive in the Buddhist and Hindu traditions, each of them excentuating another funadmental aspect of God.

I do not believe in him. A small 'h' becouse why the Fuck did my english teacher gave me a lower grade becouse I didn't wrote god with a big G. It's brainwashing! >: (

lol =D

I hate the fact that there are rules in a language anyway. Language is one of the most relative things around. ^__^

lol i hate when teachers so that. Anyway im not sure what Gender God is. It doesnt realy matter to me.

im not sure what Gender God is.[/b]

He is a female, shes a he. It's the mother of all fathers and the grandfather of all daughters mothers present. And the grandmother of your fathers sons, But not the uncle of the devils sister. Or the cousin of hitler. It's a he and shes that simple. A brother of yours, and a sister of mine. but the father of your mother.

I do not believe in God.

P.S

And she was the father of Jesus. But he was really the mother of Jesus. Later on it was known as the brother of the buddha himself.

It was known as no-one other than myself. I am who I am. And you are aswell, but she was also the one who didn't believe in him. And still it remained a she and thought to himself how ironic it was.

God is male, and female!

The main question here is if you belive in god, in this by meaning or by existence?. Well I make my belives with what I expirience and read and learn, now I can't say I do belive, but I can't say that I don't belive, god is left to interpretation for me and could be or mean many things. So I would leave it for interpretation and time will let me know if I have to, not meanig by this that I'm a person of faith

I just noticed something kind of freaky here.

Leo, the Catholic (of the old order), The Rev, the Superverse neochrisitan, Nirvana of the Dewians, and Sokar the occult renegade, all agree. Four men from exceedingly different methods of worship are all converging on a single idea, God, and finding a nexus point of Unity.

Facing outward the four cardnal points, they stand around that which is sacred to them all, their God (or rather the conception of Him/Her), and defend in Unity. But Unity is not homogenaity, but each represents the true followers of God by following the highest they know.

That each will arrive at the same destination, if they are firm in their conviction to Truth, it is sure. But even taking seperate paths alone, they travel towards the kingdom of God.

Leo with the slow determined step of the faithful Monk singing along the way. Thoughtful in contemplation more common in the Orient than the West. Chatting calmly with Angels along the way.

Nirvana jogging, hopping over rocks and streams with youthful vigor with the message of his Teacher, JJ Dewey in his light pack. Drawing strength from the devotion to his Mentor, JJ, he runs off into the World as no Keyster has done before, not in strength, but in faith.

The Rev, the personification of the intelligent Christian, the Paul of this age with his nimble and diplomatic tongue, attempting to reconcile science and the faith that he cherishes. Bombing down the freeway in his SUV yapping on his cell phone.

And Ptah-Sokar the practicer of Magick. The large lizard marching across the dark desert of the Kurrekshetra, walking the planes, with bitter winds of Satanic fury at his back doing always his conception of the Will-of-God.

If God wanted the Earth to be One in the way that many think, he would have made us all with blue-eyes, blond hair, thinking the same thoughts, one religion, all of idential personality and viewpoint. But God is not Hitler, and He seeks to accomplish his purpose with dynanicism and heterogenaity.

Where is the One in this? Look to the four pressing forward; they are One. Drawing purpose and energies from a single source, the four of them have somehow done it. Perhaps this is the Unity that Jesus Christ, that mightiest of Avatars, had in mind when he said "If ye are not One, ye are not Mine."

Even the Athiest may be One in us four.

If his spirituality is Secular Humanism, who's prime dictum is "Do until others as they would do unto you." and his Cosmo-conception that of Darwins that all life seeks to evolve and progress eternally, then he is with us, for he DOES the highest he knows, and nothing more does God expect than a man do well with what he has whether it is greater or lesser.

I do not believe in God... the notion always had seemed silly to me.

Leo, the Catholic (of the old order), The Rev, the Superverse neochrisitan, Nirvana of the Dewians, and Sokar the occult renegade, all agree. Four men from exceedingly different methods of worship are all converging on a single idea, God, and finding a nexus point of Unity. [/b]

Ah, Christmas ITM! 'Tis the season.


Instead of all arriving at the same destination, you could all be going nowhere.

Strangely that actually appears to be where many want to go, so desperate to go somewhere in their religious struggle that they will settle for nowhere, as long as it isn't here.

Originally posted by Ex Nine
Ah, Christmas ITM! 'Tis the season.

Indeed it is fine Sir. Snowballs all around!

Originally posted by Ex Nine
...as long as it isn't here.

Here sucks!

that inspirational message brought to you today by Ptah-Sokar and White-white toilet cleaner, the whitest bowl around

Originally posted by Ptahsokar
Nirvana jogging, hopping over rocks and streams with youthful vigor with the message of his Teacher, JJ Dewey in his light pack. Drawing strength from the devotion to his Mentor, JJ, he runs off into the World as no Keyster has done before, not in strength, but in faith.

I accept JJs teachings, and do draw strength from the group. But not in that fairy style way. keep in mind I am more interested currently studying DKs writings. I keep nothing in my 'light pack', but my own discernment and will. I run off into the world of men (and women) with faith and strength if I may humbly say so. But I do this not to support it, but to destroy it. As I do not belong to it, neither am I part of it.

The term \"Renegade\" woody still worries me. As the essence of the term implies the following:

a disloyal person who betrays or deserts his cause or religion or political party or friend, someone who rebels and becomes an outlaw
In the thesaurus is the terms: rebel, traitor, defector, turncoat, mutineer, outlaw, deserter, dissident, betrayer, apostate, recreant, quisling, runaway, tergiversator.

Originally posted by PtahSokar
And Ptah-Sokar the practicer of Magick. The large lizard marching across the dark desert of the Kurrekshetra, walking the planes, with bitter winds of Satanic fury at his back doing always his conception of the Will-of-God.

Disicple, forgive me if I am just a little concerned about the description of yourself here. A large lizard practicer of Magick. You can't help but relate this to the adversay. "bitter winds of satanic fury at his back" is not a term I would use for the use of my will.

Are you feeling okay? Please explain....

Alright then thanks for your posts ..... i guess. The main question here was if you beleve in God. Not picking on what gender God is. Or any usless 1 page posts on nothing interesting.

Originally posted by spirits_awakened
Alright then thanks for your posts ..... i guess. The main question here was if you beleve in God. Not picking on what gender God is. Or any usless 1 page posts on nothing interesting.

Maybe you should have specified right up front that you only wanted ignorant stupid monosylabic boneheads to respond. But others joined in and tried to make it interesting, but I guess it all quite left you behind. You resent that you have nothing to say in your own thread.

Perhaps you should consider pursuing some higher education, or even just going over a College Reading List. Make yourself familiar with Higher Thinking so you don't have to express such bitterness when you are inevitably overshadowed in almost any conversation.

Maybe you should have specified right up front that you only wanted ignorant stupid monosyllabic boneheads to respond. But others joined in and tried to make it interesting, but I guess it all quite left you behind. You resent that you have nothing to say in your own thread.

Perhaps you should consider pursuing some higher education, or even just going over a College Reading List. Make yourself familiar with Higher Thinking so you don't have to express such bitterness when you are inevitably overshadowed in almost any conversation.[/b]

Leo, there is no reason for you to act like an arrogant.. you know what. You come off as very close minded... ugh I cant even say anything Id like to to you All, I'm saying is to act nicer to everyone because they deserve not to be harassed or embarrassed by you.

Originally posted by Barbizzle

Maybe you should have specified right up front that you only wanted ignorant stupid monosyllabic boneheads to respond. But others joined in and tried to make it interesting, but I guess it all quite left you behind. You resent that you have nothing to say in your own thread.

Perhaps you should consider pursuing some higher education, or even just going over a College Reading List. Make yourself familiar with Higher Thinking so you don't have to express such bitterness when you are inevitably overshadowed in almost any conversation.

Leo, there is no reason for you to act like an arrogant.. you know what. You come off as very close minded... ugh I cant even say anything Id like to to you All, I'm saying is to act nicer to everyone because they deserve not to be harassed or embarrassed by you.[/b]

Me, arrogant!?

I was not the one who criticized all of the previous posts for not being quite interesting enough. Naturally I would infer that the reason this critic was not quite so pleased, was because he was not able to quite follow what was being discussed. It is not as though he exhibited the kind of superior eloquence which would allay doubts about his educational attainments, and so I felt that he was out of place to insult those whom he should rather respect and thank for their attention to his thread.

I was a guest who was treated shabbily, and so, really, it is not a matter of myself behaving arrogantly, but rather indignantly. There is a difference, you know. Or perhaps maybe it is you now, who could benefit by a bit more reading instead of writing.

Originally posted by inthemoment

That's a Faithbuster if I ever saw one.

Initiate, my symbolism will be explained when we talk in private and I hope that you will agree when I present it to you that it is appropriate. I can understand your concerns, but you already know that I strive to make the Will-of-God my own will, through free choice.

This should satisfy spirits_awakened: I DO