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      Well who would win? You tell me.
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      I think neither'd win as they'd never fight and this topic is stupid.

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      I find this topic offensive blasphemic and silly because they are lovers not fighters
      Also violence is not the way.
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      Isn&#39;t religion mostly about peace anyway?

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      Quote Originally Posted by TweaK View Post
      Isn&#39;t religion mostly about peace anyway?
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      No, it&#39;s not.
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      QUOTE(TweaK @ Aug 22 2006, 04:52 PM) *

      Isn&#39;t religion mostly about peace anyway?

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      No, it&#39;s not.
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      Religion hides under a nice veil of peace. But through out history it is believed to have claimed more lives than war or disease.
      I would hope most civilized societies and their religions in todays world, although mostly hypocritical in nature, would act in good faith. A personal crutch if you will.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Howetzer View Post

      Religion hides under a nice veil of peace. But through out history it is believed to have claimed more lives than war or disease.
      I would hope most civilized societies and their religions in todays world, although mostly hypocritical in nature, would act in good faith. A personal crutch if you will.

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      I know that, but I mean.. Religion is SUPPOSED to be about peace, no? :F

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      I&#39;m really sorry if I have offended anybody and request that the thread be removed
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      Haha don&#39;t worry about that man, it was just that the thread is a bit weird.
      I seriously doubt you&#39;ve offended anyone ;P

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      I am deeply, sadly offended by this grave topic, as a Scientologist, I find the only logical explanation is that L. Ron Hubbard would kill both of those lousy prophets and eat them for breakfast the next morning, and then overdose on Jesus&#39; blood.

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      I would bet my money on Jesus. From my knowledge of Christianity and Islam - which is rather limited - Jesus had supernatural powers, while Mohammed was a ordinary guy. Well... both probably were, but go Jesus&#33;

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      [quote]They are lovers not fighters[quote]

      Can I add that while Jesus never actually fought anybody, Mohammad was a warrior who took part in many battles

      I seriously doubt you&#39;ve offended anyone ;P[/b]
      Just covering my ass

      And by the way do you think that God or any higher power has a sense of humor?
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      Actually, Jesus had nothing to do with those matters of Gentile Christianity that most offend Islam.

      The Doctrine of the Trinity which makes Three Gods when only One God can legitmately exist within the Abrahamic Tradition, which governs Muslim and Jew alike. It was the Greeks, still used to their paganistic Polytheism, that thought that Three Gods was three times better than just One.

      However, there is a significant difference between the persons of Jesus and Mohamed. Jesus was the son of a Virgin who was born immaculately from her own mother. So Jesus was born without the benefit of sex going back two generations. Indeed, to Marians it is rather disputable as to whom is more important to Religion, Jesus or His Mother Mary. Looking at Religious Revelation and Apparition over the last 2000 years, it is obvious that Mary has had greater applied influence. While Jesus has been appearing to nobody, Mary appears again and again and again.

      Jesus would have been a great deal more important, as King of King Messiah, but he was murdered, and murdered still young, almost as He had just begun his bid for Power.

      Mohamed was born a man. He made himself into a Prophet. He did live longer, but long enough to develop bad habits that only corrupted what should have been a exemplary Religion. Mohamed settling arguments with war and violence... such practices have haunted Islam ever since. A Religion of Brotherhood that finds War as the answer to everything.

      Of course the Islamic Scholars were able to dodge and weave through the Koran in order to minimize such violence, and to turn Islam into a Civilized Higher Religion. But then, there is always some new Sect of Islamic Fundamentalists who distrust the scholars and reassert the doctrines of Holy War. If only Islam could convince Muslims to Worship the Koran while forebearing to actually read it.

      Zionists are negatively influenced in much the same way by their Bible. They read about the genocidal military campaigns of Joshua slaughtering every man, woman and child in Canaan and then the Philistines, and they think that God has given them a license to kill every people that falls in the path of their ambitions. "Thou shall not covet thy neighbors land" is taken to apply only as it applies between Jew and Jew. Non-jews are considered non-human, less than animals, to be treated only as obstacles to eventual World Conquest.

      Also, a negative in Religion is the horribly immoral example of Jacob -- a negative influence which may affect both Jew and Muslim depending upon how much of Jacob&#39;s career is documented in the Traditions of Islam. You see, Jacob lied and cheated to steal the Birthright from his older brother. So it is that Jews have come to think of Lying and Cheating in terms of Cunning, Skill and Cleverness. So it is that one can be cheated by a Jewish Businessman, and he will not experience a hint of moral guilt, but congratulate himself that Jacob himself could not have screwed over anybody any better.

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      Actually, Jesus had nothing to do with those matters of Gentile Christianity that most offend Islam. [/b]
      When did I mention that?
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      Quote Originally Posted by tiddlywink101 View Post
      When did I mention that?
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      Were we supposed to be paying attention to you?

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      the prophet would go jihad on jesus...right cheek, left cheek, right cheek, left cheek, etc...

      then he would eat him, and choke on his bones. both would die simultaneously.

      then christ would rise with mohammed&#39;s corpse flapping in the breeze like a cape.
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      good old blasphemy...


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      It depends on whether Mohammad enters the steel cage with his crowbar. Now, I&#39;ve seen Jesus whoop some major ass when things get rowdy at the Boar&#39;s Nest. But you have to admit, if somebody looks the wrong way at Mohammad, he gets pissed off and takes off his shirt and IS the biggest bad ass at the Nascar stadium&#33;

      Now that I think about it... Jesus is the infinitely powerful father of existence, including himself, while Mohammad is just some hick prophet.
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      I can just sense that this may be moved to senseless banter
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      This topic offends me&#33; Why has my god/religious icon not been represented (The FSM, of course)?&#33;
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      Religion/Spirituality = Senseless Banter 2.

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      Religion/Spirituality = Senseless Banter 2.[/b]
      Your probably right lol
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      I never intended this topic to be taken too seriously
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      Some of them, Chrisianity and Islam are not included.

      Well actually, American black churches and South American catholic churches are still about love and peace... and Islam in Indonesia is peaceful... it&#39;s us whities and arabs that can&#39;t get right.

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      Quote Originally Posted by DoomedOne View Post
      Some of them, Chrisianity and Islam are not included.

      Well actually, American black churches and South American catholic churches are still about love and peace... and Islam in Indonesia is peaceful... it&#39;s us whities and arabs that can&#39;t get right.
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      Don&#39;t you think that much of Arab violence is a reaction to Zionist Aggression?

      One might as well complain that Polish Resistance to NAZI aggression during the last great war was "Catholic".

      If one can identify any number of purely political provocation to violence, then it is a great injustice to complain that Religion is the problem. When so many people complain that Religion is an inventiion intended to suppress and subjugate people, then it is greatly hypocritical that they should in their next breath complain that Religion DID NOT turn them away from their natural and justified Political Motivations.

      Can we really blame Islam for not having Arabs &#39;turn the other cheek&#39; and accept genocide at the hands of the Zionists like good sports.

      Oh, which reminds me of the Zionist Propaganda movie "The Lion King" where we were all taught that there are certain "Chosen Animals" and that all of the other animals should be happy to be eaten up, just as long as they are eaten up by the "Chosen" animals.

      But can we really expect Religion to instruct people to go peacefully to the slaughter?

      No. So we should not be surprised when people seek political redress when they are confronted by aggression and injustice.

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      Leo stop getting so deep&#33;

      And is anyone going to see iron maiden on tour?
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      Quote Originally Posted by tiddlywink101 View Post
      Leo stop getting so deep&#33;

      And is anyone going to see iron maiden on tour?
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      I guess we will never have to worry about you being &#39;deep&#39;.

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