Thread: Absolute Truth

Originally Posted by 13redfan

It is the same world yes, but not for everyone in it. Our world is exactly the same, it doesn't change..."the absolute truth is infathomable and different to all of us"
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You seem to be saying two different things altogether. Does our world change from animal to animal or not? Does it matter what it seems like the truth is? Where do perceptions factor in as far as the absolute truth is concerned? You acknowledge that F18's and iPods exist despite the perceptions of some. Does this not evidence that there is no room for perceptions in terms of what exists and what does not?

You cannot step twice into the same river; for other waters are continually flowing in.
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Where do perceptions factor in as far as the absolute truth is concerned? You acknowledge that F18's and iPods exist despite the perceptions of some. Does this not evidence that there is no room for perceptions in terms of what exists and what does not?[/b]

well something exsist because it changes a river is a good example if it was not for the fact the water constantly changing postion their would be a river instead if a puddle. i guess as Heraclitus suggest that their no such thing as static the only fundamental thing in life is change. wouldnt saying were here be a absolute truth?

Originally Posted by becomingagodo

well something exsist because it changes...Heraclitus suggest that their no such thing as static the only fundamental thing in life is change. wouldnt saying were here be a absolute truth?
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That's a separate topic altogether. Just because nothing is static doesn't mean that there isn't a certain way that things are. If we looked at any instance in time we would find no change because change requires time. In other words, we would be able to see the absolutes of that instance. Also, change isn't necessarily constant. Do you understand the words that I'm writing? Probably, seeing as how their meanings have not changed recently. Does the sun still rise in the East and set in the West? Sure does. Have squares changed into circles? Objects still fall to the Earth? These are absolutes of this particular instance (and will remain absolutes of many instances to come). So actually, any given instance in time will be static out of necessity.

Sure things change, but you still haven't answered how perceptions affect reality, nor have you addressed how there is not an absolute truth.

Its like there's an alternate universe in which we all talk about the same things, but Mark is serious for some reason.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

Its like there's an alternate universe in which we all talk about the same things, but Mark is serious for some reason.

This thread has not seen the light of day for over a year... why must you revive something that has long been dead?

This thread is deceased, gone to meet it's maker, gladly pushing up daisies and eating dust by the mouthful. And now it returns to us as a ghastly, decomposed corpse. Beating a dead horse will not make it move again...