Originally Posted by joey11223
"Stand in silence in the presence of the Sovereign LORD, for the awesome day of the LORD's judgment has come. The LORD has prepared his people for a great slaughter and has chosen their executioners. "On that day of judgment," says the LORD, "I will punish the leaders and princes of Judah and all those following pagan customs. Yes, I will punish those who participate in pagan worship ceremonies, and those who steal and kill to fill their masters' homes with loot. "On that day," says the LORD, "a cry of alarm will come from the Fish Gate and echo throughout the newer Mishneh section of the city. And a great crashing sound will come from the surrounding hills. Wail in sorrow, all you who live in the market area, for all who buy and sell there will die. "I will search with lanterns in Jerusalem's darkest corners to find and punish those who sit contented in their sins, indifferent to the LORD, thinking he will do nothing at all to them. They are the very ones whose property will be plundered by the enemy, whose homes will be ransacked. They will
never have a chance to live in the new homes they have built. They will never drink wine from the vineyards they have planted. "That terrible day of the LORD is near. Swiftly it comes – a day when strong men will cry bitterly. It is a day when the LORD's anger will be poured out. It is a day of terrible distress and anguish, a day of ruin and desolation, a day of darkness and gloom, of clouds, blackness, trumpet calls, and battle cries. Down go the walled cities and strongest battlements! "Because you have sinned against the LORD, I will make you as helpless as a blind man searching for a path. Your blood will be poured out into the dust, and your bodies will lie there rotting on the ground." Your silver and gold will be of no use to you on that day of the LORD's anger. For the whole land will be devoured by the fire of his jealousy. He will make a terrifying end of all the people on earth." (Zephaniah 1:7:18)
it just seems a little over the top to me.[/b]
This is describing the end of the world, when Jesus will come back and finally destroy his enemies (anyone who has the mark of the beast, which will probably be a microchip implanted in your hand). It might seem unlike a loving God to come down and kill us all, but there eventually has to be an end to this evil world. He'll defeat Satan for good, and from then on we will live in eternal happiness with God, with no sin.
"On that day you will not question me about anything. Amen, amen, I say to you, whatever you ask the Father in my name he will give you. Until now you have not asked anything in my name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be complete." (John 16:23-24)
im not sure when this applied but in modern times our prayers are not answered (some may argue that a few are), but not like this quote implies.[/b]
Of course he can't give everyone everything they ask him. Like what if a farmer prays for rain and another prays for no rain?
He's not Santa Clause: you don't send him a list of what you want and he gives everything to you. If he wants, he will answer your prayer but sometimes we pray for something that isn't what he wants.
"Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children." (Isaiah 13:15-18)
this seems unusually cruel, even if the people in question are sinners, surely the babies are not?[/b]
It's not talking about God attacking them. It's talking about an army doing this...
Babies are sinners by the way... everyone is a sinner from the moment they were born.
"Think not that I come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."
(Matthew 10:34)
seems the opposite of what Jesus's mission was.[/b]
He means that because of Christians love for him, Christians will be hated. If you look at the verses after that verse he says family members will dislike each other because of him:
Mat 10:34 Do not have the thought that I have come to send peace on the earth; I came not to send peace but a sword.
Mat 10:35 For I have come to put a man against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law:
Mat 10:36 And a man will be hated by those of his house.
Mat 10:37 He who has more love for his father or mother than for me is not good enough for me; he who has more love for son or daughter than for me is not good enough for me.
Mat 10:38 And he who does not take his cross and come after me is not good enough for me.
Now the following are a few contradictions that confuse me:
"God is satisfied with his works"
(Gen 1:31)
"God is dissatisfied with his works."
(Gen 6:6)[/b]
The first verse took place before sin happened... the second one took place after sin.
"God dwells in light"
(Tim 6:16)
"God dwells in darkness"
(1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2)[/b]
Doesn't that just say that he's everywhere?
"God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things"
(Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21)
"God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all
things"
(Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8)[/b]
I don't see how you got "God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all things" from those 3 verses. Instead all they can really say is "God can move" (Gen 11:5 / Gen 18:20-21) or "God can take the form of a man and then move." (Gen 3:8)
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