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      spirit guides and Christianity

      I would like to know if spirit guides are against Christianity or not... Just a question that came to my head.If it helps, the exact part of Christianity that my religion is is called Russian Orthodox.


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      They could be considered as angels? Or the devil...
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      i guess they would be considered angels, especially if you follow the every person is assigned an angel believe.

      By the way which denomination believes this? I have heard it a couple of times.

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      I'd say that as a Christian the only "spirit guide" you would ever need is the Lord.
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      I agree with Homer.

      I've had over 40 LDs - no "spirit guides" for me. I'm not seeking one and don't want one. The whole idea of "spirit guides" comes out of New Age philosophy and spirituality.

      If you go looking for "spiritual" influences, you'll likely find them - in LDs, normal dreams or waking life.

      I would suggest not going looking.
      On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux.
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      i actually thought that they could be guardian angels... i mean Christianity follows that...


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      Quote Originally Posted by skuruza View Post
      i actually thought that they could be guardian angels... i mean Christianity follows that...
      Do you know the scriptural way to tell the difference?
      On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux.
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      not at all... i do not know half of the stuff u said


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      You might want to study 1 John 4:1-3 then. Here's the NIV:

      1) Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

      2) This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,

      3) but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
      On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux.
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      It might not be as spiritual as everone in here believes...

      I've heard a theory somewhere that a spirit guide might very well be the representation of your (sub-?)concious mind...

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      Wink

      Believe it or not but there are demons. They want nothing good for you and that could be what a spirit guide is. It could be using your want of a spirit guide as a way to deceive you (as you will so willingly trust you own guide) drawing you into something which will end up a disaster. Be very wary...possession does happen.
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      are you sure? I mean apart from in the Bible, i haven't seen any modern examples of "demonic posession", i mean i've seen schizophrenia. That is a medical condition, not a posession, we understand the causes more now a days.

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      Read "Death of a Guru" and you'll have your information. You can get it on Amazon for nothing. It will explain everything about Hindu culture and also give you that which you seek (to read of modern possessions).

      Death of a Guru is a great book and I would advise everyone to read it!
      "Hannibal ante portas"

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      yeah but wouldnt that be Hindu believes, i'm talking the classic Christian possession were priests use holy water, chanting etc to get the demon out. I call a really bad fever which makes people hallucinate and so many act and talk weird or "evil".

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      You can't bring movie style Catholicism into the discussion. I'm talking about real life and your talking about fiction.
      "Hannibal ante portas"

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      Demons are a universal thing. Nearly all religions have demons and all these demons are the same.
      "Hannibal ante portas"

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      Spirit Guides are Satan in disguise. Why do you think he learns you to fly? Flying is a sin.
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      eh maybe not worry so much about God judging you in your dreams and just enjoy life, theres enough pressures without having to worry about DA MAN watching you.:p

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      If you want advice on religious matters, the internet is not the best place to ask, if you really want to know whether something is against Christianity, you'll get a better answer reading the Bible or asking your priest.

      That said, I think it's best not to risk it, since there's really not any benefits to dream guides that can't be found elsewhere. If you want help with something in a lucid dream, you can figure out how to do it yourself, or ask a normal dream character to help (often, they're just as helpful). If you want advice, there's many better places to get it than from your dreams.

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      Ok... What about guardian angels?Also, what about reincarnation-is it real or what's the deal with it.Lastlt, since my exact religion is the Russian orthodox, should I get a Russian bible or english- are they the same or different?


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      lol well you cant prove weither reincarnation is true or not, thats what makes it part of a faith. Technically you will become part of something else though, take this example:

      1. I die and i'm buried

      2. Bacteria decompose me and what i am becomes nutrients in the soil

      3. These nutrients are then consumed by a worm filtering the soil

      4. A bird eats this worm so now the nutrients are in the bird

      5. The bird has offspring, now part of me is in that offspring

      hehehe:p

      oh and the deal with it, well its the believe that when you die, your "soul" ia reborn into another creature depending on how you live this life. So if you were very good you could be another person, if you bad you might be a low animal like a spider.

      The only flaw is how do you re-attain human form? When your human you have morals and have conscience decisions thatcanbe judged. When your a spider you only follow basic instincts. Spiders are never cruel, they trap and tie up insects to feed from, they eat their mates( if they are female) because the males nutrients are used in creation of offspring(lols us guys get it bad). So idont see how spider can be judged positively or negatively.
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      New Age spirit guides are demonic I have read several stories of people becoming possessed by their spirit guides. Though, if you want to, you can try to pray to God and ask him to send you a spiritual guide, who knows maybe your prayer will be answered.

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      Spirit Guides understand that there are infinite ways of accepting Jesus Christ as your personal savior.

      Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.


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      What's with the thread-necromancy from 2007?

      This thread has shown me two things. One, that R/S had a rather large amount of vocal religious posters in the past but no longer does (I find this interesting...). And two, that this would have to be the most disgusting thing I've read today.

      Quote Originally Posted by pj View Post
      I would suggest not going looking.
      Hide from what you don't understand/don't wish to understand. That's a fantastic attitude . And really cowardly.

      As for the subject of spirit guides, when I was younger I would have liked to believe that they existed, and I tried several times in my lucid dreams to make one manifest as I was always interested in what my 'spiritual animal' was. He/She/It never revealed itself to me. My requests in my LD's were always unanswered, or the dream would continue on with something completely non sequitur that couldn't be interpreted in any meaningful way.

      I've since given up any kind of belief in spiritual guides and now regard anything I encounter in my own head as a product of my subconscious and my imagination. I've not encountered any evidence to sway me to any other conclusion.
      Last edited by Sisyphus50; 09-28-2008 at 03:07 AM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Shuriken-Pete View Post
      Believe it or not but there are demons. They want nothing good for you and that could be what a spirit guide is. It could be using your want of a spirit guide as a way to deceive you (as you will so willingly trust you own guide) drawing you into something which will end up a disaster. Be very wary...possession does happen.
      Please support that ludicrous claim with evidence. And no, Hindu culture doesn't count as evidence any more than African tribal culture means that their Gods exist.

      this would have to be the most disgusting thing I've read today.
      Last edited by ClassyElf; 09-28-2008 at 03:07 PM.
      I live in your philosophy and religion forums.

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