The official "can't we all just get along" thread redux

[metcalfracing]

Think of this as the finer points of atheist philosophy thread... Rules 1. No religious trolling (sorry guys, I love you, but it'll just cause unwarranted stress for the nice atheist folk.) 2. No religious trolling 3. Plz, for the love of god, no religious trolling+ This is meant to be a place for superficial philosophical conversation, on the border of the hell that is the rest of this forum, for those that only want to warm their hands by the fire... We is very tolerant, feel free to share your views with everyone, no matter what type of atheist you may be. We'll start out slow, so everyone gets the picture... First topic... What's your philosophy of life, and what are the pros and cons?

[Neruo]

OR You could actually make an interesting, relevant topic contributing to this forum instead of whining

[joey11223]

technically a philosiphy on life should go in that sub forum. But im sorry this wont end well, in asking for someone to describe their atheist view, it is obvious that a theist will combat the response, atheist combats that,and lone behold we get a debate, which after a few pages turns heated, as any debate does when both sides jave such strong life views.

[metcalfracing]

OR You could actually make an interesting, relevant topic contributing to this forum instead of whining God, I've missed you Neruo. You need to remember that a thread's relevance is subject to opinion. I think that these threads matter... deal with it. Oh, and please... tell me, how is this whining?

[joey11223]

God, I've missed you Neruo. You need to remember that a thread's relevance is subject to opinion. I think that these threads matter... deal with it. Oh, and please... tell me, how is this whining? just get rid of the brackets at the top, until you do that this sint a neutral thread, this is just you wanting a negative response from Atheist which im guessing you think you can use to claim all atheists are trollers. But if i said 1. No religious trolling( lol sorry Christians but you guys are just dense and get a tad to mardy sometimes) 2. No religious trolling 3. No religious trolling i think you might want to combat what my bracketys were implying, just as atheists will want to combat the way you poke fun/insult them. If you want a a discussion without religion in it, post it in the philosiphy sub forum or extended thinking.

[sourcejedi]

Arrgh. Its a conspiracy to make my head asplode, I swear. - mf starts inflammatory thread about religion by maligning atheists - as expected, maligned atheists complain and malignant atheists revel in defiance - mf complains - people explain carefully why the atheists are feeling maligned - mf claims not to have realised his thread was inflammatory and apologises - me (sourcejedi) suggests mf test for inflammation by imagining how he might react if an atheist had started an analagous thread. - wl stirs it up again by starting a new thread, substituting nationality for religion, trying to draw a comparison between someone apparently being frustrated with derailment of religious threads by atheists to racist scum. - me yells at wl for copying what I said without adding anything, and starting a new thread for no good reason and generally being a jerk. - mf starts a 3rd thread from the same template, this time copying my post word for word. The very post I clearly stated was pointing out how offensive mf was being in the thread he started in a way which I hoped he would find easier to understand. - Neuro points out that all mf is doing is whining, that even if the thread was actually serious then it doesn't even belong in this forum, that any sane person would be completely fed up and bored of the topic by now, and there's no way anyone who saw the earlier threads is going to take this one seriously a prompt to explain their atheism. And there's not even a good reason to post a separate thread for atheists because several of them have already attempted to respond seriously to the request for "pros and cons" on the religion thread! Now how can we take mf's apology seriously? Why should anyone respect mf's pleas to stop trolling? And why is there a ragged bloody mess where my head used to be? And look at the timestamps on the last two posts. I see them as "Today 12:06 AM" followed by "Today 09:15 AM"... there's something very wrong here...

[sourcejedi]

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[Indecent Exposure]

Using extreme sarcasm does not prove you point you could ahve just said I apolgise for the terrible start to the last thread, lets use this a thread for free disucssion regarding the finer points of religon, whichever religion you belong to/ or dont. Can nobdy please turn this thread into something it wasnt attendend to be? Thank you, PS im an arsehole But no, you had to go about it this way arsehole Imran

[Neruo]

God, I've missed you Neruo. You need to remember that a thread's relevance is subject to opinion. I think that these threads matter... deal with it. Oh, and please... tell me, how is this whining? How is talking over and over again about talking about religion(, despite people (me) telling you you should stop in your pointless endeavors,) in a forum that is supposed to be meant for talking about religion not whining? Get it? Good. Now give me proof for a God, or at least amuse me with interesting rants instead of boring rants.

[homer2020]

How is talking over and over again about talking about religion(, despite people (me) telling you you should stop in your pointless endeavors,) in a forum that is supposed to be meant for talking about religion not whining? I just like to point these things out, you just told him to stop talking about religion in a forum that you yourself said is for talking about religion, all in the same sentence.

[Neruo]

I just like to point these things out, you just told him to stop talking about religion in a forum that you yourself said is for talking about religion, all in the same sentence. I though the sentence I used might have been a bit to complex for some people, and I was right. If you read correctly this time, you will see I told him to stop talking about talking about religion. In the sense of: stop talking about what people should and shouldn't say about religion. It's like if people talk about freedom of speech for Nazis, that doesn't mean those people are actually talking about what Nazi's talk about. To talk about the process/way of talking about something =/= (really) talking about something. Get it now? Good.

[homer2020]

I though the sentence I used might have been a bit to complex for some people, and I was right. If you read correctly this time, you will see I told him to stop talking about talking about religion. In the sense of: stop talking about what people should and shouldn't say about religion. The sentence "stop talking about religion" only has one meaning, that is to not talk about religion anymore. What your revised sentence says should have been said in the first post. It would have been easier to say "stop telling people what to think" I notice you like trying to correct people, Im just repaying the favour. Get it now? Good

[Neruo]

How is talking over and over again about talking about religion(, despite people (me) telling you you should stop in your pointless endeavors,) in a forum that is supposed to be meant for talking about religion not whining? Get it? Good. Now give me proof for a God, or at least amuse me with interesting rants instead of boring rants. The sentence "stop talking about religion" only has one meaning, that is to not talk about religion anymore. What your revised sentence says should have been said in the first post. It would have been easier to say "stop telling people what to think" I notice you like trying to correct people, Im just repaying the favour. Where did I say "Stop talking about religion"? Are you word-blind? Dyslectic? Retarded? I will show you again: How is talking over and over again about talking about religion(, despite people (me) telling you you should stop in your pointless endeavors,) in a forum that is supposed to be meant for talking about religion not whining? Saw it this time? Lets break it down. How is talking over and over again about talking about religion (...) not whining? = How is talking over and over again about X (...) not whining? X = talking about religion Lets substitute X with "eating cookies" in this sentence. How is talking over and over again about eating cookies (...) not whining? In this sentence, did I condemn the process of eating cookies? No, I did not. You can not draw that conclusion from that sentence. Then why would the meaning of the sentence change, if I replace those words in a way grammatically, nothing changes? It doesn't. I do not condemn the process of talking about religion. I condemn the process of discussing (a lot) about the way the talking about should or shouldn't be done. (as in: Telling people not to offend a certain group). As I tried to explain to you before. Yes? I would like to hear your response.

[Snooze]

hate to be the spoil-fun but all that, can't we all just get along.. kinda lost faith on that one years ago

[homer2020]

Did you read your ENTIRE post, here let me break this down for you: Here is where you tell him to stop talking about religion (I'll bold some words to make this easier) How is talking over and over again about talking about religion(, despite people (me) telling you you should stop in your pointless endeavors,) Stop means: to stop and heres were you say that this is a forum for talking about religion: in a forum that is supposed to be meant for talking about religion not whining? Another note: you told him he was talking about religion then say he was whining, those are two different things to be talking about. (I'll underline these to make it easier) Now no matter what you say there isn't any way you can prove that you did not say to stop talking about religion, just in case here it is again: talking about religion(, despite people (me) telling you you should stop in your pointless endeavors, So do you see the stop in there?

[Neruo]

I am a retard Telling someone to stop talking about raping babies doesn't mean that person should stop raping babies, it just means that person should shut up. So. You lose. Looking at the case grammatically, I own your face. GG.

[homer2020]

Telling someone to stop talking about raping babies doesn't mean that person should stop raping babies, it just means that person should shut up. So. You lose. Looking at the case grammatically, I own your face. GG. Very good telling someone to stop talking does mean telling them to shut up congrats. I don't see the relevance as that implies that I said that you said "stop believing in religion" all I meant was that your first sentence was contradictory, you told him to stop talking about religion and told him that the forum was for talking about religion.

[Neruo]

How fucking retarded are you? Telling someone to stop talking about ending a war, (and DO it)doesn't AT ALL mean that person should not end the war. In contuary, it probably means that the person should end the war. Like in my sentence, I ask Metcal to stop talking about how to talk about religion, and actually talk about it. if you have the I.Q. of a goldfish, and can't understand more complex sentences than "Me like tree." then that is your problem. Everyone understands what I said, I said Metcal should stop whining like a bitch, and actually contribute to this forum by making a topic about religion or spiritually, instead about trolling. - However, you probably still don't understand, so just don't reply. If you do, don't expect me to waste more time explaining to you how composed sentences work.

[homer2020]

How fucking retarded are you? Telling someone to stop talking about ending a war, (and DO it)doesn't AT ALL mean that person should not end the war. In contuary, it probably means that the person should end the war. Like in my sentence, I ask Metcal to stop talking about how to talk about religion, and actually talk about it. if you have the I.Q. of a goldfish, and can't understand more complex sentences than "Me like tree." then that is your problem. Everyone understands what I said, I said Metcal should stop whining like a bitch, and actually contribute to this forum by making a topic about religion or spiritually, instead about trolling. - However, you probably still don't understand, so just don't reply. If you do, don't expect me to waste more time explaining to you how composed sentences work. See that bold part of the sentence? Do you see that here? How is talking over and over again about talking about religion(, despite people (me) telling you you should stop in your pointless endeavors,) in a forum that is supposed to be meant for talking about religion not whining? All it says is that you want him to stop talking about religion, then you say this is a forum to talk about religion, then you say he never talked about religion and he was whining. You most certainly DID NOT tell him to stop talking about how to talk about religion. if you did copy and paste your quote where you did that.

[homer2020]

If I say you should live, then by your logic it most likely means you should die.Also by your logic your sentence told met to continue talking about religion and the forum id not meant for talking about religion and he didn't whine. Sorry that's not how the world works, you say something and it usually means exactly what it says. I don't know who taught you your grammar, but telling someone you don't want them to do something means you don't want them to do something. Just so you can understand: Don't admit your wrong.

[metcalfracing]

Ya, Neruo... you lost, let it go.... Now, to address my flood of hate messages in on fell swoop... 1. Yes, Source, it is a conspiracy... just like everything else... 2. No, Neruo, I didn't get it... k? 3. Imran, of course I had to go about it this way... I mean look at this, I post something like this that should only be offensive to religious people, but instead the atheists are still the angry ones... 4. Joey, how is calling atheists nice more offensive than saying "no religious trolling"?

[joey11223]

my reading skills have regressed. To me it says that we get stressed about everything, which to me isn't calling us nice, it's just insulting us in a less direct way. You know you wanted this contraversy, otherwise you would have left this thread at, " Please guys don't insult each other here, lets be civil in this topic" Also what did you mean by what ever type of Atheist we are, Atheism is believing in no God, there arn't types of believing in no God, it's more of a statement. Where as in religion there are many Gods or sects that believe differently about one God.

[homer2020]

my reading skills have regressed. To me it says that we get stressed about everything, which to me isn't calling us nice, it's just insulting us in a less direct way. You know you wanted this contraversy, otherwise you would have left this thread at, " Please guys don't insult each other here, lets be civil in this topic" And i quote: but it'll just cause unwarranted stress for the nice atheist folk The word everything is not in there, but arguing causes stress so I don't see any reason to get mad at that... And the rules thing was more of a parody of the other topic, at least that's what I gathered from it (I'm used to topic parodies I come from the land of Gamefaqs )

[metcalfracing]

Wait... I'm still confused... The only thing I said about an atheist's character was that they are nice... I don't understand how it is an offensive statement to anyone that isn't looking to be offended. The stress thing reads exactly the same in both threads... So, if I'm saying that atheists get stressed out about everything... then I'm saying the same thing about theists, as well. So, what exactly is your arguement? PS: Ya, this was meant to be a parody for laughs... but people won't just laugh and move on. They have to take offensive to anything I say, because I'm a big bad Christian.

[joey11223]

.......... urgh.... ok you see where you used brackets, you singled out Atheist and when you look at that " but it'll just cause unwarranted stress for the nice atheist folk." . If i heard anyone say that out loud the sarcasm would be obvious. You don;t need anything singling out anyone in this post, what im asking is why not just put 1. No atheist trolling 2. No theist trolling then it would be a neutral thread, which it seems you want(well you don't but ya know, what you pretend to want).