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      For agnostics (but feel free to join even if you arent)

      You see, us agnostics need a place to laugh at the rest of you, however, we're more welcoming people and have very few insecurities, so theists and atheists, join in the discussion.

      So yeah basically, if your agnostic come and post your agnsotic logic and the reasons behind your agnosticism. If your not, come post why your not.

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      Yeah Agnostics! We have the best of both worlds! If there is a good part of either of those...?


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      Quote Originally Posted by imran_p View Post
      us agnostics need a place to laugh at the rest of you
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      we're more welcoming people
      Oh, never mind me. My contradiction detector just went off, and I wanted to see what the noise was about. No, no, keep you nose in the air. I am leaving because I don't feel welcome where I am going to be laughed at. Keep up the good security of being above having a view on whether the wildest mass belief of all time is true.
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      who wants..pizza!! *WOOOOO!!!*
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      I Want Pizza...woo


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      i just had some microwave pizza

      anyway i think i am a lil bit agnostic, but its more like....90-99% no God, i can't be sure because there's no way to prove it. But i'm more likely to accept an advanced alien civilization created/influenced us and other dimensional beings before a God, as it is described.

      You people know full well that in about 1000years, probably way sooner, we will be able to drastically change animal and plant DNA to create what could be classed as totally new species. We are already doing well in genetic engineering now. Oh hey is that a sin? Because say when they use genetic engineering to make bananas the shape they are now and have the nutrition values and stuff, or make plants fruit more and quicker, is that changing Gods design then? Because your improving on Gods design, so isn't that going against his wished?
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      No, nor do I think cloning is a sin, god permitted us to come up with those technologys, if he didn't want us to have them he would have ereased all knowledge of it from our minds and prevented us from learning it. Genetic engineering can only help.


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      ok how do you feel about stem cell research? Surely if the cells can be used to save a living being, then taking them from a few week old fetus/ from bone marrow( cos theres stem cells there too!) surely isn't too bad. It can only help...

      It's better then those parents that have a second child just to save their first then the second lives their life having constant bone marrow surgeries and stuff, poor kids, especially if they know that was their purpose.
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      But God let us learn how to make guns, did he want guns? He let us know how to make gas chambers, did he want us to have gas chambers?
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      I have a question... as an agnostic, do you believe that the christian religion could be truth?

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      no, I am agnostic only because i have no proof he doesnt
      U sing simple logic i can find that the Christian God doesnt exist, in his omnipotent, omniscient and benevolent sense.
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      I am agnostic only because i have no proof he doesnt
      So do you believe theres a chance that A god exists, just not anything like the christian god?

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      I believe I msut leave room for the fact that A creator could exist, I dont bleeive there is a strong possoiblity, but I leave room for one.
      However I am an apathetic agnostic, even if there was a God I wouldnt worship it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by imran_p View Post
      But God let us learn how to make guns, did he want guns? He let us know how to make gas chambers, did he want us to have gas chambers?
      How else are we to efficiently make use of toxic gases?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      How else are we to efficiently make use of toxic gases?
      *grabs shotgun( lol guns)* " you better had be a jokin there son........ny"
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      guns and gas chambers are bad things, genetic modification is a good thing, god likes good things.


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      Quote Originally Posted by imran_p View Post
      But God let us learn how to make guns, did he want guns? He let us know how to make gas chambers, did he want us to have gas chambers?
      My parents let me hang out with friends who did drugs. Did they want me to do drugs?

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      And the agnostics shall inherit the earth .

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      Quote Originally Posted by RooJ View Post
      I have a question... as an agnostic, do you believe that the christian religion could be truth?
      It could be true, but I doubt it very much. I believe in a creator. Just a creator, because I don't understand how a universe can make itself, but I also don't know how a god/creator could make itself so I'm just very full of doubt.


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      well Alcarinque that means that your one very conffuzled person. Maybe there is still hope for you.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Alcarinquë View Post
      It could be true, but I doubt it very much. I believe in a creator. Just a creator, because I don't understand how a universe can make itself, but I also don't know how a god/creator could make itself so I'm just very full of doubt.
      God doesn't have to create Himself - if you accept that God exists, then you accept by definition that He has always been.
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      Quote Originally Posted by SilverZero View Post
      My parents let me hang out with friends who did drugs. Did they want me to do drugs?
      Yes, haha.

      Anyway, I don't believe in god, but there's no point in trying to shake sense into theists, so I, like you agnostics, just sit at the side and watch the flame wars that seem to start in every thread about religion.
      Can't people believe what they want?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lord Toaster View Post
      Yes, haha.

      Anyway, I don't believe in god, but there's no point in trying to shake sense into theists, so I, like you agnostics, just sit at the side and watch the flame wars that seem to start in every thread about religion.
      Can't people believe what they want?
      What about all the Christians-turned-atheists? And I actually think there is a remarkably small incidence of flames in this forum. Which is awesome.
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      Quote Originally Posted by RooJ View Post
      I have a question... as an agnostic, do you believe that the christian religion could be truth?
      I am Agnostic, and I don't believe the Christian religion could be truth.
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      Quote Originally Posted by SilverZero View Post
      What about all the Christians-turned-atheists? And I actually think there is a remarkably small incidence of flames in this forum. Which is awesome.
      That was just because I was on a holiday

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      Question for the Agnostics:
      How likely is the existence of a god? And the existence of a personal god?

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      By the way, agnostics can be cool people, because they are better at keeping their beliefs they probably can't properly defend, for themselves =)
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